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I'm not certain where we might differ here since I too take the second coming to be meaning during the 6th seal? If the 6th seal is involving an era of time rather than a single 24 hour day, how I might view that, it could mean, though Christ returns during the 6th seal, He doesn't necessarily...

In my view, maybe not in your view, is basically where I place some of the following, meaning timeline-wise. Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they...

My bad. For some reason I thought I was replying to @Spiritual Israelite not you. I think I meant to address that to post #585 not post 581 instead. Therefore, some of this is not applicable to you since I was meaning these things for @Spiritual Israelite to consider, not you. Once again, my...

Obviously, you are correct that none of that is involving tribulation, it is involving the DOTL which isn't meaning during tribulation, but is meaning after tribulation. Which then presents a problem with even your view if, in reality, all 7 vials of wrath take place during the DOTL. You have...

My understanding is, there is no way in a million years that any of the vials of wrath can be taking place outside of the day of the Lord. And since the 4th vial, for one, proves the 2nd coming hasn't happened yet, though you misrepresented what I said about that, it then makes me wonder at...

I don't even know where to begin in order to straighten this pretzel out. You are not clearly understanding some of the things I am proposing nor am I clearly understanding some of the things, Amils, such as you and @WPM are proposing. Therefore, all there is to go by are the texts themselves...

You are Prewrath then? Take, for instance, the following, which is clearly something that occurs during His wrath. Revelation 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and...

In your mind then, the only way to be prideful is to talk down to other posters, but since you are not doing that, this equals you are not being prideful? As if there are no other ways one can be being prideful as well, such as, when being undeniably proved wrong, then not being able to at least...

What are you talking about? Are you sure that wasn't meant for @Douggg rather than me? Unless I'm mistaken, the post you are addressing is the first post I made in this thread, but even if it isn't, I'm not advocating for there being a 5th kingdom pertaining to the image to begin with, I'm...

I mainly agree except for the part Daniel is not about the endtimes. Maybe not all of it is, yet some of it is. To insist none of it is, is not reasonable.

Daniel 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. 39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third...

Which goes to show, in my case anyway, that one can be Premil and still understand some of these other passages correctly, such as what we are discussing here. That aside. Per my view of Premil God spares some unbelievers during the 2nd coming, for example, Zechariah 14:16-19. They live on...

I tend to think it means the following. It means all Jews that were never cutoff for disbelief, all unbelieving Jews that get graffed back in because they are no longer in disbelief, and all Gentiles that are graffed in because of belief. This would mean all the following are excluded. Any...

Even though I'm Premil and have entertained Keraz' interpretation of that in the past, your interpretation of it appears to be a better example of using Scripture to interpret Scripture in this case. Therefore, I'm more inclined to agree with Amils in this case than I am with Premils. But even...

You in turn think, the fact satan literally saw God in all his glory, as did the angels, that it was illogical and unscriptural that satan and billions of angels could have rebelled? What is wrong with your some of your reasoning of things here? You act as if humans are far more intelligent than...

If Revelation is about Jews it is about spiritual Jews, IOW, it is is about the church. It certainly isn't about the branches that were cutoff because of unbelief. And guess what that would mean? It would mean the OT has some false prophecies. For example, the following. Psalms 110:1 Psalm...

What's puzzling about this to me is that @WPM liked your post #255, yet I was under the impression he interpreted Mat 24:32 like I do, not like Preterists do. I was thinking he took it mean the end of this age was near and not something still involving the first century instead. I don't care if...

It figures, the fact you are apparently a Preterist, and that you would be taking that to be involving the first century while some of the rest of us would be taking it to involve the end of this age, that Jesus was meaning that the end of this age was near, at the doors even. Therefore, I...

We are discussing/debating whether or not Ezekiel 38-39 has been fulfilled. And if Jews believe it hasn't, that should be good enough, because if anyone should know their history, it would be them.

Summer is nigh at some point every single year since the beginning of time. Therefore, not seeing how what He said there is meaning Amos 8 was being fulfilled before their eyes. When He said summer is nigh, what passage in the Gospels are you specifically meaning?