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Amils need to deal with their own nonsense per the following below involving their own view instead of creating new nonsense for Premil that is not even logical to begin with. As if any saints will be being beheaded after Christ has returned. What a bizarre question that was. It's hard to...

It might be like a speed limit sign that is posted. How should one interpret that? Does it mean that you can go any speed you want just as long as it's not the speed posted on the sign? Does it mean that you can go any speed you want up unto the speed posted on the sign? Does it mean you can go...

Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams...

So Pretribbers want a post trib verse? The following is what initially helped change my mind about the timing of the rapture. For decades my position was that the rapture was Pretrib. That changed when I began reading the following more carefully and then dissecting it, so to speak. 2...

IOW, let's just make those dreaded unbelieving Jews in the first century the sole objects of God's wrath and punishments. Instead of the following applying to professed servants of Christ in the future, let's just make these be meaning those dreaded unbelieving Jews in the past, in the first...

There are numerous reasons why. But one of the main reasons is related to how I interpret some of 2 Peter 3, such as the following. 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt...

But then we have Jesus being all over the place if that is true. Matthew 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall...

Some of these other views that like to throw monkey wrenches into something like that because of their doctrinal bias', has any of them ever proved you wrong here? Meaning, have any of them ever found a verse a two elswehere in the NT where anástasis is also used but that it was not referring to...

Their body stays behind in the ground , assuming they are buried and not cremated, yet that is beside the point, but that their soul ascends to heaven and they rest in heaven until it is time for the last trump. God then brings them with Him, thus the dead in Christ rise first. Per this scenario...

You do realize that no saint can be in a glorified immortal body until the last trumpet sounds first, right? 1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet...

What were you meaning by a spiritual event then?

I wish I didn't have to disagree with one single Christian. Yet, how can I agree with every single Christian? I can't. So it's not like I enjoy disagreeing with other Christians about things, it's that I have no choice but to do disagree at times. Yet, I don't think less of the person simply...

That's pretty much my take on it as well, that pretty much every instance of the DOTL in both the OT and NT, these are involving the same DOTL. Take Isaiah 13 that has been brought up. While there might be some of that that could maybe fit ancient times, not all of it can. Plus, some of it...

I take out a hundred dollar bill out of my wallet. I then say, "do you see THIS hundred dollar bill I now have in my hand?" "It could be yours if you sell me that laptop you have that I want to buy for a hundred dollars." "At least think about it." I then put the hundred dollar bill back in my...

Have you changed your mind about some of this recently? Whenever I proposed pretty much the same thing you appeared to be adamantly opposed to what I was proposing. Or at least that's how you came across to me at the time. To me it makes perfect sense that Christ fulfilled the first half...

I guess I missed that. You, therefore, do not take these events in the literal sense, correct? IOW, unlike how Christ literally bodily rose from the dead, none of the dead in Christ that rise first are literally bodily rising from the dead per your view of this, correct?

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. . 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in...

I certainly don't know what you are meaning. Instead of making statements like that then expecting some of the rest of us to grasp why you conclude that, why not simply provide an example or two from the Bible that you feel proves your point, then explain how it proves your point?

The way I reason things in general, assuming one side is correct, the side that is correct would be like arguing that 2 + 2 = 4, the side that is wrong would be like arguing 2 + 2 = 5. Why would anyone arguing 2 + 2 = 4 need to consider any arguments by someone that is arguing 2 + 2 = 5? That's...

I still don't get it? Why the last thing on the list is the very first thing fulfilled? Not according to me, but according to some of you and what you are applying that to. I would think that angel had better sense than that. If the idea was that number 6 is fulfilled first, he should have at...