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But why call that the day of the Lord when the DOTL involves judgment and wrath upon the lost, and that the DOTL comes as a thief in the night? It might be different if you weren't connecting it with this same DOTL that comes like a thief in the night and that you were meaning something else...

Something I can at least agree with anyway. It's basically the timing of it where you and I don't appear to be on the same page in regards to. You think it already began thousands of years ago, I don't. I think it is a one time only event that hasn't occurred yet. But when it does it will be...

But where does it ever say in the Bible, where the context undeniably pertains to the DOTL, that it involves light?

I don't think the DOTL involves the millennium though, since the DOTL involves darkness, even if literal darkness is not meant. The millennium couldn't possibly be involving darkness, in any sense.

Though, you didn't ask me that, the way I might respond to that is like such. If you don't mind it being dark and not light, even very dark, and no brightness in it for forever, maybe then the DOTL might fit an everlasting day. But if those things are not something one might desire for all...

You seriously need to do a study on the DOTL then. Consider the following, for example. Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even...

You might not realize it, but this is where 2 Peter 3:8 might help us here, since , like you pointed out, those things logically can't fit within a 24 hour day, but they can certainly fit within a day involving a thousand years, though. Think about it. What is a day? It is an era of time. 24...

What is there to explain? The end is meaning after the great white throne judgment has commenced and ended. Until the great white throne judgment, regardless when it is meaning, has fully concluded, no way can it be the end yet. Clearly, the rapture precedes the great white throne judgment...

When you say that are you just meaning in this particular case or are you meaning all the time? If the latter no way do I remotely agree with that. Because, for one, without getting into a debate about this, but anyone who insists OSAS is Biblical but that NOSAS isn't, isn't remotely an example...

In that case I'm probably better off not reading any more of his posts from now on. I was right right all along about him then. When he said they ascended in order to torment, I thought maybe he was meaning they get to help Christ and His angels do that. But you're saying he is saying they...

What we have to keep in mind about this is that where the tree of life is, that is where paradise is. And where does Revelation 22 locate the tree of life? In the new Jerusalem after it comes down from God out of heaven. Just like the tree of life was in the midst of paradise in the beginning...

In some of these other posts though, you were giving the impression that the 2Ws were doing evil deeds in the eyes of God at times. Or at least that's how those posts came across. But maybe you were meaning it in a different manner? Such as, God was pleased with what they were doing, not...

As if it really makes a whole lot of sense, what you have been concluding about theses 2Ws, that if you correct, they are then rewarded with the following. Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great...

If satan and Abaddon/Apollyon are one and the same, well John had at least two opportunities to make that point clear, yet he never did. Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the...

And your posts in this thread are showing that the issues with Amil run deeper than just the placement of the millennium.

I agree. I don't not what the deal is with some of these Amils? They insist Jesus' soul went to heaven instead.

If satan is no longer deceiving the nations, what is preventing every single person from being saved? Assuming you are correct, why isn't everyone being saved since there is no one to deceive them?

Jesus said that He would spend 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth, and that the heart of the earth could not possibly, not even remotely, mean anywhere near it's surface. And since it is preposterous that His body would have been buried that deep, meaning miles and miles down into the...

Does this mean that over the years Amils did provide Biblical evidence from the book of Revelation that prove satan is bound during the NT church era? Obviously, Revelation 20 aside since it is debatable what era of time that fits, all previous chapters are pretty much pertaining to this present...

A Pretrib rapture simply means any rapture that occurs before the start of great tribulation, regardless what one labels that view. Post trib means any rapture that occurs after great tribulation has ended. Pretrib means before great tribulation, post trib means after great tribulation. If you...