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Both have haters. The difference is that there are a bunch of people who like Trump, too, while nobody actually likes Biden. The last election was (a) people voting FOR Trump and (b) people voting AGAINST Trump. Biden was irrelevant. He could have been replaced with a large rock with a...

The popes don't claim authority from the Bible. They claim their authority comes from Apostolic Succession. That is, they make out like there is an unbroken succession of apostles who handed down their authority through the generations. Does that idea hold water? Not at all. A quick survey...

There are some eschatological beliefs which would be disproved, depending on the when Revelation was written.

I know it's not orthodox, but if you read Genesis 1:1 the way scholars have recently, that's what it says... At the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth, the earth was formless - void. And the Spirit of God hovered over the surface of the waters.

Only if you lose.

I used to work for one of those mines, the Tenke Fungurume mine in Congo. Well... indirectly. I wasn't in Africa. I arranged international payments to contractors, vendors, government agencies, and a few less savory characters. Child labor is strange nomenclature for this part of the world...

Invest? Or give away free money? There's a big difference. One expects a return on an investment.

So, I'm kind of guessing, but... you don't have any experience with this, do you? You are just theorizing here based on what you've read?

I think I'm making it easier. I'm requiring less answers. We can ask the question "where did it come from?" an infinite number of times. Eventually we have to get back to a point where Someone or something is uncreated and eternal. We believe God is uncreated and eternal - the Someone. I'm...

I'm not sure it's necessary for them to be created. God Himself isn't.

What experience do you have with this?

But God didn't start with nothing... At the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth, the earth was without form - void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. It says here He started with something formless - "waters"

I can't say that I know much of anything about them.

Which one?

There isn't anything overt. But Trump does court the votes of the white supremacists, having given shout-outs to the Proud Boys in one speech if I recall correctly. You get judged by the company you keep. Can we talk about Biden though ... actually is racist. His political mentor - Robert...

Pretty well. I found the idiots first (or they found me?) and blocked them. Then I found the people who could actually hold a conversation. Maybe I just don't see the toxicity because of the blocking, but I enjoy my time here.

Kind of this? Most of my actual human contact is with people who aren't going to have an interesting discussion with me about the Bible or theology. I like to say that I'm here to have conversations.

The irony wasn't lost on me as I made the post. :Laughingoutloud: Diversity has kind of turned into a dirty word nowadays. Blame the schools. We used to have The Loyal Opposition and the Devil's Advocate. These filled the same function of offering alternative ideas, but without the muss...

What is this team working towards, exactly? The point of most churches is community. Dissent drives change and creativity, but it isn't known for fostering community.