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  1. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Not saying you're wrong, but how does this fit into your doctrine: 1 Tim 2:4, Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. It looks like God would certainly like all to be saved, so why aren't all saved? Or are all saved?
  2. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    You keep wanting to change this verse to: "He is God, the firstborn of all creation." That's not what the verse says. Why is it so hard to understand what an image is? Image: An imitation, representation, or similitude of any person, thing, or act, sculptured, drawn, painted, or...
  3. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Well, I told you the facts about the word "mystery" in the original texts. I made up absolutely nothing, I merely quoted well known and highly respective sources. It would easy enough to verify if what I said is true or not.
  4. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    No, I do believe in the Athenasian Credit, but it's not me that believes it. I don't believe it. Sound weird? Well I don't think it's any weirder than what the Creed says, namely that there is a God the Father, there is a God the Son, and there is a God the Holy Ghost, but there are not three...
  5. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    It is. :)
  6. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    We in the modern West think of a mystery as something that can't be understood. That's not how the 1st Near Eastern people understood it. Here's Strong's definition of "mystery" G3466 μυστήριον musterion (mï-stee'-riy-on) n. a secret or “mystery.” {through the idea of silence imposed by...
  7. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    First of all, logic is not the invention of humans. God gave us minds which can only comprehend that which is logical. All the words we use to communicate are based on logic, and God used words to communicate His will to us. How do you come to a conclusion about anything, including the identity...
  8. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Do you not think God gave us brains and minds that work with logic? If you think no, you wouldn't be able to prove it. I think proof of anything requires logic, so even if there was a trinity nobody could prove it. It would have to be accepted by blind faith, which in itself is an oxymoron. We...
  9. Rich R

    Satan was right? Egads!

    What do you mean by human nature? I take it to mean what all humans have. So no problem with any three people sharing the same human nature. Still have three unique distinct individuals though. Nothing about three of anything in one of anything because we all share human nature.
  10. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Twice I've quoted Peter telling is we can learn from the OT, so obviously I believe we can learn from the OT. What do you mean by "applicable?"
  11. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Sure, there is a Father, his son, and holy spirit, which violates not one single grammatical rule, nor logic. But when it said, "there is a God the Father. There is a God the Son, There is a God the Holy Ghost. But these are not three Gods, but they are one God," we've entered a realm where...
  12. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Well, if you guessed non-denomination you got it right!. :) And I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to go over it again. Totally understandable.
  13. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Well, it's nothing new, but God did say, 1Cor 8:6, But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him. Is Jesus the Father? I assume you think not, so how do you explain this verse in such a...
  14. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    For the record, I think that you, as a dear child of God, are nothing short of the bee's knees! I love you and would do whatever I could should my help be of value to you in any way. I am your servant. :)
  15. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Maybe I'm wrong in understanding what you wrote or even if it was in reply to my post, so if the following indicates I didn't understand it, please ignore or clarify as desired: I'm not sure what I mistranslated. Could you could be more specific (but only if it doesn't make you sick. I really...
  16. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Exactly. John also said, "the word was with God." A couple of points here; 1) Verse one talks about the "logos" ("word" in English). It is not good to change that word to "Jesus." Better to see what the logos actually is. Unlike the recent past when anything trinity was suppressed, it is...
  17. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    It is clear. Over and over in John 14 we see Jesus talking about his Father. A son and a father are two people in anyone's book. Verse 23, talking about himself and his Father, said, "We will come unto him..." "We: The plural nominative case of the pronoun of the first person; the word with...
  18. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    Did you offer up all the required daily animal sacrifices today? Assuming you didn't, why not? Is Leviticus not important? But if you do happen to offer the daily animal sacrifices, then you might actually pay the invoice addressed to your next door neighbor just because you happen to see it on...
  19. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    I love it! Thanks for the reminder brother. :)
  20. Rich R

    Trinity Belief and Born Again?

    And hello to you! :) I think you just gave a good summary of Romans 7. John also has something to say along these lines: 1 John 1:8-9, 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our]...