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If Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, I would say listen to the Father who said to listen to Him.

Silly strawman. I'm righteous if I claim to be...and I'm not if I don't? That's about the depth of thinking that goes into that.

As in...how can we KNOW if someone who boasts of his own humility is really humble? All claims of being righteous are SELF-righteous. Who is saying it? What many here haven't yet figured out is that Abraham never claimed to be righteous. Neither did the Publican. Only modern believers have...

What say you?

This is false and backwards. The only people that I see claiming to be righteous are the modern indoctrinated believers. It wouldn't dawn on unbelievers to claim that. And I am the one pointing out the self-righteousness in those who think their beliefs about Jesus somehow justifies them without...

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That's because they each concern a different category of person. Annihilation for the wicked. Damnation for the filthy. Salvation for the righteous. Glory for the saints.

How do so many modern believers resist the gospel of walking in the light? How many prefer the darkness?

Sure. IF that person can be reformed and corrected. God is MORE merciful than I am. The bible records how the wicked will never repent....or be reformed or corrected.

Yes, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God is also the author of life. Both temporal and eternal. We live a temporal life in order to ascertain whether we are suited or allow ourselves to be suited...for an everlasting life. Again, God is far more merciful than we are. That doesn't...

God will sort out the dead according to their kind. Kind of like sorting out a catch of fish on shore....as per the parable of the kingdom.

Not at all. God is free to adorn His creation or destroy it. He is God...the Creator. We have no such right. God is not a man.

They did. And they will rise up to condemn those who didn't on that day...as Jesus said. Most people never repent. The exception proves the point. Those who repent will be saved. Repentance from wickedness into righteousness...AND repentance from our power to God's (for the elect)

I opened that up! :) He predestined only the elect. Most people have a choice that is theirs to do what is right and to fear God. Most will only reap as they themselves have sown...and that actually also includes the elect...but on a higher level. So I am NOT a fundamentalist judgmental type...

How about those pesky Egyptians? Where was the Universalist bent in God then? ;)

Vengeance is not ours to mete out. That is God's domain. God indeed loves His enemies. He gives us many opportunities to repent. But His justice demands that the wilful sinners be condemned. Otherwise we should all indulge ourselves in this life...there is no point in learning to eschew evil. I...

Let's not be dogmatic by going to extremes. The Bible seemingly backs up BOTH exclusiveness AND universalism. But in each case, half the Bible has to be ignored. And there is a place for both. In the holy city, we see ONLY the elect. This is where Calvinism can work. But there are also the...

What opportunity. You would have to believe that some people are born without a conscience. We are ALL created in God's image. Don't react against the fundamentalists who consign everybody to hell. God saves the righteous...the weak, the poor, the meek, the suffering. God is merciful. And the...

But you gracious in your points. Thanks for that! :) You have a point where the elect are concerned...even the righteous. But God also hardens the hearts of some..giving them over to do evil...more and more. Not every story has a happy ending. The world is a big place. And God's judgments are...

Yes, the love of Christ constrains us. But this kind of discipline is towards His people. Those whom He loves He chastens and rebukes. But God goes easy on the destitute, the poor, the suffering...etc. God is far more merciful than those who claim to be "saved". So much religion.