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@CTK I would also suggest that your thinking regarding the Adventist view on the ten horns as being solely secular, is incorrect. As I mentioned in a post elsewhere, upon which I could readily elaborate if questioned, the prophecy explicitly refers to several characteristics of the little horn...

I agree with you that Daniel is primarily a focus on Christ and His ministry. Daniel 9 in particular exemplifies this. However, one cannot avoid the growth of His kingdom via the gospel in the post apostolic age without making specific mention of the opposition and the counterfeit that the...

Here's my version of the same era... Post in thread 'Daniel 7 - 10 horns....' Daniel 7 - 10 horns....

Some interesting thoughts there. I don't agree with the timeline or some of the applications, but interesting nevertheless, and shows some signs of thoughtful study.

You are violently ripping apart history to suit your theories. The ten horns that grew from pagan Rome formed the foundation of modern Europe. You cannot, must not, discard 1500 years on European history and plunge it into some imagined prophetic dust bin. The principle nations of modern Europe...

CT There are several excellent history books that speak of the Antichrist, but they are written by genuine protestants. Modern day Protestantism is found only in the few. The few that haven't given up the fight against heresy, and haven't stopped proclaiming truth, and are still speaking truth...

America, now 9 months into tightening relationship between the Trump administration and the evangelical right, seems to be well down the road to create an image to the papal beast and it's rule of law. Three times in the sixth chapter of Daniel is mentioned a particularly important...

The Real Bear in End-time Prophecy I would like to touch on a topic that will impact Seventh Day Adventists prophetically more than any other. The issue of separation/union of church and state in the United States.We are currently observing a burgeoning relationship between the church...

So my immediate thoughts are, yes, certainly there is a progression or growth, of those ten horns. Some things I think are important is that A. although they didn't all arise simultaneously, (thinking back upon the actual history), they certainly did rule contemporaneously. B. It wasn't until...

Where does it state that Rome had to occupy Babylon? Have you a reference for that please.

I don't think CTK is an Adventist.

It's neither baseless, lazy, or false. It might be succinct, it might lack references, but it is certainly true. Futurism, and your's and others' continuing espousal of it, is absolutely the popular modern futurist understanding, keeping in mind the fact that just this thread reveals a bucket...

What you are trying to say is that there is no relationship between what CTK accurately depicts as the understanding of the Daniel 2 prophecy, and your understanding of the Daniel 7 prophecy. Your understanding of prophecy reveals a complete disconnect between Daniel 2,7,8,9, and 11, whereas the...

3 of the original 10 that grew from the 4th beast were uprooted by the little horn, the papacy, and ceased to exist. Thus the ten toes which are destroyed at the second coming are not the same as the 10 horns.

I was following you until here. In the last days the mark will certainly be an identifier as those who either by conscientious choice (the forehead/mind) receive the mark, or for sake of convenience and comfort so they can go on living as normal (in the hand). Those who have refused the mark...

More truth in that than appears.

All of which are standard Jesuit futurist responses.

From my perspective of scripture, the imagination is the only place it could be found. There. Hornets loose. Sorry.

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. Most preterists positions I've read revolve around Antiochus Epiphanies as being the fulfilment of the prophecies concerning the...

What 7 year period would that be pray tell?