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  1. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Yes. Sorry for the confusion. You seem to be a nice enough guy with a sincere belief in the scriptures. Wish there were more like you. I don't like the translation, "...the word was a god" either. While it grammatically possible, I think the intended meaning is more along the lines of, "...the...
  2. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Geez...I thought you would have believed everything I said by now. I just don't understand why you don't....just kidding! :)
  3. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Well, after I wrote my post it occurred to me that you may have been talking about the other folks. I wish we could delete posts or I would have deleted that one. Plus it's hard to keep track of who's who sometimes. There's a guy named David in NJ who I think is the one who called us fools...
  4. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Then all the OT folks with "el" as part of their name are God? I'm thinking not. Better find out exactly what a name meant to the Ancient Near East.
  5. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I've shown many names in the OT that have "el" as a part of their name. Not a single one of them are actually God. I don't know what I can say to convince you that a name is nothing more than a name. It may be descriptive of one's character, but that' all. I'm not going to sit on a guy named...
  6. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I'm really sorry, but I just don't see where you got the appellations "Elohim Son" or "Elohim Holy Spirit" in Genesis. You mention 2 alternatives here. There is actually a third alternative, namely that Jesus is the Son of God, which is exactly what he is called about 35 times or so. What's...
  7. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    You understand I was being called a fool, that I didn't call anybody a fool? Here's the entire post #258: "True, the son is not his own father. It should be that simple, but somehow the meaning of simple words flies out the window and we end up saying that the son and the Father are one and...
  8. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Well, you thanked me for my research which I appreciate, but your reply seems to suggest you didn't read it to much of any depth, which is fine. You are certainly not obliged to investigate something that may be new to you. I understand that. But, perhaps you could look at one little part of my...
  9. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    John 17:21, That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. "...that they also may be one in us" is the text and it agrees with the Greek. If I changed the word "in" to "with" it was a...
  10. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    How do you know anything about my fruit? Are you just basing it on my saying one little thing, especially when that one little thing was pretty much what someone said to me first? And to think, based on the flimsiest of evidence, you suggest I don't even try to be loving. I wonder what's really...
  11. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    You are assuming that the original text said, "...was God" but it was later changed to, "...a God" by certain nefarious characters. Perhaps it's the other way around. First of all, we need to acknowledge there are no original texts, texts that John actually wrote. The best we have are early...
  12. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    And that's where your argument breaks down; calling a fool someone that God calls his child. And coming from someone who apparently doesn't know that a son can in nowise be his own father. Now there's some real interesting linguistics!
  13. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    So you're using the scriptures and the normal usage of simple words to prove a point while ignoring tradition? What a concept! And, wow, it works! We can actually allow Jesus to be the son of God instead of God Himself if we do that. Yeah, but no point in using our God given brains and logic...
  14. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I have looked at John many times and I can't get past the stated reason for him having written his Gospel. John 20:31, But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. It's the very Christ that God...
  15. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Yeah, but he still can't explain a son being his own Father.
  16. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    So there are no characters in the Bible that have one of God's title in it, namely el, as in Emmanuel? Maybe I just misunderstood, because I think the following you already know: Let's see, there's Samuel, Ezekiel, Daniel, Elijah, Elam, Elihu, Eliezar... I could go on for a long time listing...
  17. Rich R

    Teaching the Bible to K through 3rd Grade

    Rom 2:4, Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? God does not lead anyone to repentance by focusing on their sin. It's His goodness that draws people to Him. That's simple enough to...
  18. Rich R

    Teaching the Bible to K through 3rd Grade

    I get it! I thought I was missing something. And yes to what kids should be thinking about. Thanks.
  19. Rich R

    Teaching the Bible to K through 3rd Grade

    First of all, I condemn nobody, regardless of their choices. Before accepting Jesus, we are all dead in trespasses and sins. There are no degrees of death. One person, because of their particular sin, is no more or less dead than the next dead guy. There is no good thing in anybody's flesh, be...
  20. Rich R

    Teaching the Bible to K through 3rd Grade

    Not sure what you mean. Did I say something that should cause you to scream and run to another adult? If so,what?