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  1. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Good article from Vines. I never saw that one. Thanks. As far as Jesus being sent, there are at least 3 places in the Gospel of John alone that explicitly say Jesus was sent by God, 6:28, 8:42, and 17:3. There are many other places where it is very clear that God sent Jesus. I'm afraid being...
  2. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Technically, you are right about your friend, but analogies don't always agree 100%. I understood what you were saying in any case. Your friend sounds like a really good man. To help the poor while being in such a high position as Lord Mayor is quite commendable. Reminds me of Jesus washing the...
  3. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Unfortunately, I guess we don't believe in the same God. I believe in the God of 1 Corinthians 8:6, which says that, to Paul, there is but one God, the Father. That's the God I go with. I don't see why anybody would want to go beyond that simple declaration and add two other gods, God the Son...
  4. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    I'm probably not making myself clear, but suffice it to say I don't believe what you think I believe. We're probably much more alike in doctrine than different. At least as far as I can tell with the limited interaction we've had so far.
  5. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Here's a good article on Jewish agency: Shaliah - Wikipedia. That article has many other references at the end if you want to go deeper. The idea of agency is included in the word Hebrew word "Shaliah" (not to be confused with the Muslim Shariah law). Although the word "Shaliah" (a noun) is not...
  6. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Amen to that brother! Mary must have been some believer. It's amazing God had to wait only 4,000 years for a virgin to actually believe she would bear the Messiah. Lucky for us she said, "be it done unto me according to they Word." Personally, I probably would have told God, "Oh sure. I've...
  7. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Oops. I better be more careful in my reading! :)
  8. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    It's equally clear you did no research whatsoever on agency in the Ancient Near East, despite the fact that I gave you the necessary Google search words You're absolutely right, I don't understand the trinity. Nobody understands the trinity. Nobody can understand a son being his own father...
  9. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Your friend has 3 different aspects of one person. The trinity claims three people are actually one person. Anybody can be multifaceted but that person is still one person. That is perfectly logical. It is not logical to say one person is actually 3 people.
  10. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Acts 2:38, Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 16:31, And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Rom...
  11. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    What is it in John 14 that says the Jesus, his Father, and the Comforter are all one person? Why not take it as we usually do when three entities are mentioned in a piece of writing? Three entities mean three entities. We read things that way all the time. I know of no other writing where three...
  12. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    How is, "Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God" the same as, "Jesus is God in the flesh?" The two statements are diametrically opposed to each other. If words have any meaning, one person can't be a son and their own father at the same time. If so, then it opens up the floodgates to assign any...
  13. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    Yes, Jesus and God are both called our savior, but that in and of itself does not say they are one and the same person. In the Ancient Near East, an agent had virtually the same power and authority as the one who sent them. Joseph and Pharaoh are a great illustration of this concept. Gen 41:40...
  14. Rich R

    The Problem with 2 Peter 1:1

    There is much written about Sharp's rule, but most is quite technical, frankly beyond my ability to fully comprehend. But I do know that there a many reputable scholars who disagree with it. It's not something cast in stone for sure. The many translations you noted also indicate that there is...
  15. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Did you try to find anything about agency for yourself, or is it nonsense simply because you don't like it? Just because it's never mentioned in Sunday morning church services doesn't mean it's not a thing. Google "hebrew agency in the bible." There's tons of documentation. You might also...
  16. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    Geez, it wasn't that long ago that the count was about 20,000. Progress???
  17. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    I don't see anywhere anything about "false" gods. If you don't believe the clear declaration in 1 Corinthians 8:6, take a look at the scope of the whole Bible. It is clear that there are in fact many gods. There are several verses in the OT that name some of these gods. Corinthians does not say...
  18. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    "He will be called..." not "He will be..." A name is a name. I might point out that a name to an Ancient Near Easterner has way more significance than it does to our modern West. Was Joshua also God? His name means, "Yahweh-saved." Besides that, Isaiah doesn't say Jesus would be called YHWH...
  19. Rich R

    A Curious Question For Non-Trinitarians

    I get it now. We'll all figure it out when Jesus returns and we'll know ourselves like He knows us now (1 Cor 13:12). Unfortunately, until then we'll probably have all the division. Too bad, but as you said, the devil is alive and active. God bless
  20. Rich R

    One and Triune God.

    Gen 23:5-6, 5 And the children of Heth answered Abraham, saying unto him, 6 Hear us, my lord: thou [art] a mighty prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead. The children of Heth...