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  1. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    No which I agree with
  2. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Then your view contradicts the verses that promise salvation too who ever repents, thus your view is biblically wrong. It doesn't say won't repent it says can't repent. It also doesn't agree with amil theology and has nothing to do with amil theology
  3. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Do you not see how you just twisted multiple scriptures to support your view? John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." Romans 10:9: "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and...
  4. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    The verses in the bible that promise salvation to anyone who repents like John 3:16 don't have "unless you take the mark of the beast" in them
  5. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yes amen fantastic post, there is no verse in the bible that say, "unless you take the mark of the beast".
  6. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Is it the character of God to dam a single mother for taking a literal mark in ignorance to feed her kidsbut forgive Paul for persecuting the hurch? Even though a literal mark isn't what Jesus taught us the only unforgivable sin is. The bible isn't all a literal text its a message, and the...
  7. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Revelation 19 20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur...
  8. Marty fox

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    What did Jesus and John say John 8 34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s...
  9. Marty fox

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 4:3: "And every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of...
  10. Marty fox

    Revelation chapter 11 questions

    Your right and the destroyer is named as the one who killed the eldest male in Egypt in the book of Exodus
  11. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    It’s saying that God gives judgment
  12. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Good to hear take care brother
  13. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I believe that Luke is talking about spiritual death. The one thing that we all know and trust is that God is just in what ever happens.
  14. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Hello Randy, how are you its been a while? Check out post #65
  15. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Do you really think God would let people burn forever? Is that really God's character? That would sound like a sadist. I think that the eternal torment of knowing that the after seeing heaven, the reason that people aren't in heaven is their doing their choice. In this scenario its on them...
  16. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Dave, we have been over this many times before and I have stated to you that I believe that this was in the past in the first century. Why do you think the mark or the beast coming out of the pit was post Johns day?
  17. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Its the same scenario as the seal in the verse below. Gods seal is symbolic and the promise of salvation. The mark is symbolic and they won't repent they are doomed Ephesians 1 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you...
  18. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    He deceive them but its still our choice to sin, the devil can't make anyone sin its our responsibility James 1 12 Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because, having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life that the Lord has promised to those who love him. 13 When...
  19. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I’m talking about rejecting Jesus and giving into sin. Satan can’t make anyone do anything it’s always our choice
  20. Marty fox

    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Anyone who rejects Jesus is required to be sent to the lake of fire. Thus thats what the mark is, a symbolic sign of the rejection of the Holy Spirit (blasphemy of the Holy Spirit) that reveals Jesus to us and what Jesus said the only unrepentant-able sin is