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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You are claiming things that I have not said or even believe you don’t even know what I believe The great tribulation is on the church it was the wrath of God that was upon apostate Israel The wrath of God was also a tribulation period for apostate Israel as there can be many tribulations...
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    FYI I’m not a Preterist I’m a partial Preterist and I have post going through Mathew 24 verse by verse showing the fulfillment
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    You just avoided it again and anyone reading this thread can see that, why don’t you just answer it?
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Once again both of you completely avoided my question about Luke 19 and through in your own question anyone reading can see this. Why don’t you just answer it? I do not think that Jesus was more concerned about apostate Israel over the church I have never said that but He did talk about it
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Why did Jesus say that the city would be destroyed below? Luke 19 41 And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it, 42 saying, “Would that you, even you, had known on this day the things that make for peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes. 43 For the days will come upon you...
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No that’s not what I’m saying or believe at all I didn’t say any of that Why did Jesus say the city would be destroyed below? Luke 19 41 And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it, 42 saying, “Would that you, even you, had known on this day the things that make for peace! But now...
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes they are listening with closed ears not even trying to understand what I,m saying it’s a waste of time
  8. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes if the Jews had stopped the temple sacrifices and accepted Jesus as their God and Messiah 70AD wouldn’t have happened that’s the whole point, judgment is based on human response. Do you really not see that? Luke 19 41 And when he drew near and saw the city, he wept over it, 42 saying...
  9. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course, but don’t you think that them seeing that God removed it from them made them think what they did wrong? Why He did tha? Don,t you think that may of made some of them realize that Jesus was their God and Messiah?
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes thanks it’s really that easy I can’t explain it anymore to them and I can’t understand why they can’t grasp what I’m saying
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes of course, Christ put an end to it, but the physical act of sacrifices was still being carried out, what can't you get about that? And that actually happened the temple was destroyed that stopped it. That's why God destroyed the temple so that they could finally see there was no need for...
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read post #568 my reply to you? You guys aren't actually reading my post and saying what you think I believe and I don't I actualy said "this act from God brought a physical end to the Christ rejecting sacrifices."
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, I'm not assuming that every reference to Jerusalem, the temple, and stones must be interpreted literally, that's why I posted Mathew 23:37, of course Jesus was meaning apostate Israel when He said "“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to...
  14. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm not laughing off anything; all I'm saying is that I believe that the Olivet Discourse was about the time leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the physical Old Testament way. The temple sacrifices carried on after the first advent which was a rejection of...
  15. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes within that generation
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Matthew 23:37-Mathew 24:3 37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 See, your house is left to you desolate. 39...
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, my argument is that Jesus predicted that Jerusalem would be destroyed and when that would happen and it happened when Jesus said that it would happen, what else do I need? I don’t get it, this is the type of conversation I thought I would have trying to prove to someone that Jesus was God
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yet Jerusalem was destroyed when Jesus said that Jerusalem would be destroyed, I'll stick with that. By the way the city gate would be locked closed every Sabbath in biblical times in Jerusalem.
  19. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read my whole post? I gave other reasons besides how many died and what Josephus said and even said that it wasn't about how many were killed what makes it the worst time in history. History proves the true meaning of biblical prophecy and the fact that destruction of Jerusalem...