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Can there ever be greater deception if like many people say Jesus turns out to be God Wrangler? That would just about extinct the deception satan has done.

Which one of the scriptures you posted nullifies what I said sir?

HI Scott, the angels are not God sir, those who go to heaven become as the angels as well in spirit bodies, and they as well are not God sir. True, they are infinitely superior to humans, but still not God. The topic of the thread is who was sacrificed. The son that God sent was a being and as...

Hi Adam, I do not understand what you mean by the way he was beforehand sir. Were you meaning that he went back to an exalted position? If that is what you meant, I fully agree. If not, please expound on what you mean. Yes Jesus was the same as perfect Adam as you indicated, we agree on that as...

I am going to agree Scott, it is not a nice place. but that really wasn't my question was it sir. The Bible tells us what hell is, you clearly are unaware of what it is, would you like to discuss what it is Drop?

Christ was sacrificed Jay. He bought back what Adam lost simple as that. God's law requires equality. If a perfect life lost life, then a perfect life had to be sacrificed to buy it back. No human born in imperfection was able to redeem mankind, so God devised a way to make that happen, He sent...

No sir, in fact Jesus did not ascend to heaven for aprox 40 days after his resurrection. The first resurrection are those who are resurrected to heaven after Jesus became King. We do believe it has already occurred. They alone overcome the second death upon their resurrection as seen, whereas...

The first recorded outpouring of holy spirit occurred on Pentecost of 33 CE sir. In agreement with what you said, only those endowed (baptized) with holy spirit will go to heaven. John was dead prior. Do you recognize that only those of the new covenant will go to heaven Rw? If you do, then you...

Yes sir I am. The Gentile times ended when Jesus was crowned as King. We are in the last days, Jesus' presence Mat 24:3, and the last days will end when the Kingdom comes, at the end of the tribulation Be. That is our understanding of it, time will reveal if either of us are correct in our...

So why do you think it was Jesus who went back to heaven, rather than the son God sent sir? Jesus returned to his previous life, as his assignment was completed. Jesus of course is not equal to god as well. Your altered version of the Bible was altered deliberately. The reason behind it is quite...

Many do, in fact the Bible indicates the majority do maam.

Hi Gedge, who do you say Jesus is sir? Jesus once asked that very question.

It seems that many think Jesus returned to heaven as Jesus, rather than the being he was that was selected for the assignment. Most agree that Jesus existed as a spirit being prior to becoming a human, so when he came and gave his flesh and blood to redeem us from what Adam lost, is it not...

The key to understanding is what is the appointed times of the Gentiles. So let me ask you, what do you understand that term to mean Be?

You are very welcome B

Believe what you want sir, but it is rather clear to me. Would you like to discuss what hell is, you know that is a translated English word, not found in the original writings?

You do understand it is God who selects those who go to heaven Drop, correct? We don't. Remember the gift God gives is everlasting life, and He created the earth for humans. You may prefer heaven, which is fine, I personally prefer earth, as it was created as our home, and it is my home. I do...

Yes sir, common sense, I don't think Jesus returned to heaven as the lesser human he became. He was sacrificed, fulfilling his assignment. Therefore he went back to who he was. You do understand that the individual in heaven who became the human Jesus, no longer existed during Jesus' life span...

Wait a second Rw, that is not what you was telling me the other day. In fact you were chastising me for my believing Jesus was resurrected bodily, which I assured you I believed he was resurrected a spirit, as you said.

Although John was the greatest human in history in Jesus' eyes, we take it he didn't go to heaven because the least one in the Kingdom of heaven was greater than he. The truth is, he would have obviously, but he died prior to the baptism of holy spirit, therefore was not born again. He will be...