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  1. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    I say 'nobody wrote about it' and you want me to cite... what exactly? If they didn't write about it, then there's no citation to make.
  2. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    I read that as NPC's at first... I think I've heard some of those too. Chkl:
  3. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    I wouldn't mind the discussion, but I believe the Trinity as a topic is off-limits here. And I can't go there without, well... going there.
  4. Wick Stick

    If our interpretation of scripture sidesteps common sense, did we get it right?

    An extended metaphor, built on wordplay. The words for speech and water are similar in Greek. Speaking is visualized as a flow of ideas or words emanating from the speaker, like water would flow from a spring. This is also why writings can be "fulfilled" - words that flow out can "fill up" a...
  5. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    You're not the first to say so. Philo of Alexandria suggested the same thing in the 1st century AD. But there are problems. First... nobody before Philo said so. There was over a thousand years between Moses and Philo in which NOBODY held that view or at least nobody wrote about it...
  6. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    I see that you are one of the many who think of the spiritual as some sort of other realm or alternate dimension. I don't think like that. That view is faaaaar outside the culture of the times of the Bible. As someone who has gone to some lengths to familiarize myself with the culture and...
  7. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Certainly that's part of it. I think there's more to it than that. There's media pressure to "normalize" homosexuality and transexuality. And, not to go too far into conspiracy-theory-land, but there have been changes in our food and medicine.
  8. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    Super interesting! Where can I read more? This story is very similar to the creation myths of ancient Persia and the Asian steppe, and the hypothetical Proto-Indo-European mythology.
  9. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    I don't exactly have a comprehensive bibliography that I've been preparing. The Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible would definitely be on the list, though. Other than that it mostly comes from conversations on forums like these, and /r/AcademicBiblical, and reading archaeological...
  10. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    But it isn't simple. There is such a mental illness - gender dysphoria. About half of 1% of people have it, and that estimate is liberal. Yet we have thousands upon millions of (mostly young) people who are identifying as a gender other than they had when they came out of the box, so to...
  11. Wick Stick

    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Good topic. There is SO much that can be said, but I want to focus on this: What is between a person's ears is determined to a large degree before birth. During pregnancy, somewhere around week 25-27, the brains of male (XY) embroyos experience a surge of hormones, among them testosterone and...
  12. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    99% of the people in church don't think about their theology, they just accept what they are taught. The people who post on these boards are the 1% of weirdos who do. Myself included. I've had Dispensationalists and Reformationists and Restorationists and Catholics and even the Open Theology...
  13. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    My experience of dispensational churches is that most of the people there are focused on eschatology. They are all hunkered down, trying to ride out the tribulation until Jesus comes to save them. That isn't a paradigm that lends itself to good mental health or success at living life... but it...
  14. Wick Stick

    Has the church got Genesis all wrong?

    Well, here's a perplexing thing for you to ponder. Normally, when the Bible is translated, names are exempt from translation (they are transliterated instead). Not Eve. When Genesis was translated into Greek (1st century BC), instead they translated her name as Zoe, which is the name of a...
  15. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    I think you've gone too far and not far enough. Too far, because most people in dispensational churches aren't racists, and I don't think that's a major tenant of what those churches teach. There are a few weirdo churches (the wwcog comes to mind) that are like that, though. Not far enough...
  16. Wick Stick

    If our interpretation of scripture sidesteps common sense, did we get it right?

    The government doesn't have much of anything to do with the licensing/ordination of ministers. It's influence is strictly about taxes. Registration as a 501(c)3 charitable organization can be revoked if a church doesn't follow the laws. Most of those laws are actually good. One that I think...
  17. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    All Israelites are NOT lumped together under the title "Jews" until much later than you'd think. The major prophets, writing hundreds of years AFTER the northern kingdom of Israel had ceased to exist... still separate the two. There are still separate prophecies for Israel and Judah at that...
  18. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    Galatians 3 19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made... 14 The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
  19. Wick Stick

    NEWSFLASH: Abraham was not a Jew. Neither was Isaac. Neither was Jacob.

    Wow this thread is alarming. The original post... isn't wrong. Judah is part of Israel, but not every Israelite is a Jew. That's like saying every dog is a Chihuahua. I would venture to say that if a person doesn't put a difference between Jews and Israelites, they can't possibly understand...
  20. Wick Stick

    If our interpretation of scripture sidesteps common sense, did we get it right?

    Probably not. There are many people who cannot (or do not) differentiate between Scripture and my-interpretation-of-Scripture. Perhaps they don't try to interpret Scripture. Perhaps they are in the habit of relying on others to do this for them. That isn't even a bad thing! But if you're...