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I had to go to a Catholic site to find this one: I honestly have no idea what Irenaeus is getting at, but it gets interesting at about 4 or 5. CHURCH FATHERS: Against Heresies, II.22 (St. Irenaeus)

This is just something I found online. I don't have this book, so it may not be in there: "The Thirty aeons are not typified by the fact that Christ was baptized in his 30th year: He did NOT suffer in the twelfth month after his baptism, but was MORE THAN FIFTY YEARS OLD WHEN HE DIED." –...

Sorry, but I just took you at your word when you asked about what I meant. I failed "Mind Reading 101." I didn't know you really didn't mean those things. The insincerity? The seeming desire to see if we could play the "Argument game" is what I meant. I don't argue anything with anyone...

If even part of the claim of the unreliability of Irenaeus' relating of dates is true, then I think that matter is settled.

Well, I think she is sincere in a lot (definitely not ALL), and I think God led her here. I do know that He has impressed on my mind that there is something about her that says I am not to give up on her.

Oh, good grief. You know I meant there was no trace to be seen when one stood and looked at where the Temple had once been. I even told you the Bible said the Romans plowed it all under the ground.

Now, go back and read all of it again, and see if you notice that I quoted a book. Kind of silly to be asking me what I was thinking when someone else wrote the book. LOL As I said, these were things some of us may not have considered. Frankly, I doubt your sincerity when you approach the...

Sure, we will likely go to fighting again. This happens every few years.

Are you serious? Of course it is still there. The Romans plowed dirt over the rubble of the remains.... they didn't carry them back to Rome.

Do you think that the American Revolutionary War was never mentioned to Americans just 26 years later, simply because "They all already knew it happened."? This was still in the lifetime of people who lost their loved ones in 70 AD. It would have still been a huge deal.

Did you know Josephus claims that 1.1 million people were killed during the 70 AD siege of Jerusalem, of which a majority were Jewish. And that not so much of a trace of the Temple was left? The Romans actually plowed the ground flat and level where it once stood. (The ultimate insult to a...

Well, the main thing that has ALWAYS greatly bothered me was, that if the date of writing was in the 90's, it seems completely unfathomable that not even one single word about the massive, horrible, murderous, and overwhelming and total destruction of almost EVERYTHING Jewish was written there...

When do you think The Book of Revelation was written? Here are a few things you may not have considered: (from one of my favorite authors, Jon Welton.) The Authorship Date of the Book of Revelation I have come to understand that the majority of the Book of Revelation was written regarding...

Jennifer, You are not proving anything about other people when you keep spitting in their faces until they finally slap you back. There may be some harsh people here, BUT it is you, yourself, who are bringing just about every bit of this retaliation on YOURSELF. If you want to wallow in a puddle...

Perhaps you haven't been paying any attention, but most of the world has been in almost constant war for thousands of years... along with all those other things. None of that has anything to do with what Jesus was talking about.

Oh Brother! I want some of what you guys are smoking. I've seldom seen such a miss-mash of confusion.

Had to shut it off. I got disgusted. It would really not be hard for me to beat someone to death under those circumstances.

Yes, I think it is fairly obvious to anyone that spirits (the spirit of anti Christ) work through human beings. What I said was "THE" Antichrist is never portrayed in the Bible as a One-World Leader who rises to ultimate power.

I sometimes forget you did say you were a "preacher" not a Pastor. But, you occasionally remind me.

"If they are guilty?" Who's doing the judging in determining that?