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  1. JohnDB

    The greatest CONSPIRACY THEORY of all time: There is a God.

    Ooops....thought I was responding to a different thread.
  2. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Do you have a habit of falsely accusing others of sin or are you just treating this brother special? He was looking for information about this subject to understand it some more because in our modern times the concept of polygamy is really foreign to our culture. And if all you really have...
  3. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Told you so! Everyone wants to argue about legitimate reasons for divorce and what constitutes adultery. The truth is that Jesus instituted a New Covenant....one without codified law for a reason. And people are forever trying to nail jello to the wall so they can get around it. But they...
  4. JohnDB

    Likely impossible.... but character counts question or idea.

    Learn to say more with less words. Moses and Paul did it....even Peter did it. You can too.
  5. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    I don't know if it's about maturity as much as it implies wisdom. Knowing wisdom and learning wisdom are somewhat different. Some people Excell at applied knowledge (which is wisdom) others just regurgitate what they have learned by listening to others. And it is deceiving at times who...
  6. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    People are selfish....they want to use the innocent for their personal gratification. They are sick twisted perverts who destroy everything they touch. I highly recommend staying away from these sorts and not having anything to do with them. I do find it especially interesting though...
  7. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Sex is a major physical part of marriage. Sex causes children. Just one of those things. In today's society we are definitely over-sexed. Everything is about sex in some fashion. Whether abstaining or endulging or browbeating the abstainers or endulgers. *depending upon your proclivities*...
  8. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Samuel is not exactly a story that is going to be useful. Eli was a horrible priest. So let's divert away and use Judah and Tamar. Judah was supposed to give Tamar to another husband of one of his sons... And if not he was supposed to marry her himself to keep the lineage going for his...
  9. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Refer you to the book of Ruth. Your concordance will list them out. I can't remember the specific scriptures chapter and verse numbers.
  10. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Actually the daughter was SOLD to her husband. Then he was given a dowry. Which she was to be given if he wanted to divorce her. And the "fornication " Jesus discussed is only ONE of the many reasons for divorce. What Jesus intended was more in line with the "fornication " found in...
  11. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    We often try to place our lense of modern society into the scriptures regularly and have for centuries. Where human behavior has not improved and been a constant...it has gotten better in some ways...less barbaric and bloody in some ways. But just as deadly and violent just the same. We...
  12. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Polygamy was mandated by the Torah in certain instances. (See Ruth) David had many wives as did Solomon in excess...many kings in Israel had many wives. But so did Moses. Moses's second wife was "one of the cushite barbarians" that Egypt built all its military fortifications to prevent their...
  13. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    Consorts were so much an integrated part of Roman life that it wasn't secret or scandalous whatsoever. It was actually a status symbol to be a consort of a wealthy man. These consorts relied solely upon their boyfriends for their monetary support. It had no relationship to today's standards...
  14. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    When Paul wrote to the Church at Ephesus (where Timothy was serving as an Apostle ) he told the Ephesian men to "love their wives" and for women to "respect their husbands" . Both of these directives were outside the box of normality. Sex slaves were common. But a sex slave wasn't...
  15. JohnDB

    Does the "husband of one wife" requirement mean that polygamy was common in the early church?

    The letter was written by Paul to Timothy...his apprentice. Not a formal letter written to an entire church body. So some colloquium were used within the contents. In Roman society plural marriage was NOT common as it was inside of Jewish society. In fact it was extremely distasteful...
  16. JohnDB

    Hey Everybody! Owner of the Site here!

    Admin..... Last seen Feb 7 of this year. Hmmmmmm
  17. JohnDB

    Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

    Currently, Israel is pulling all staff from its embassies all over the world back home. The US has issued a worldwide travel warning to all US citizens. Biden was on television tonight saying that we are going to hold Iran responsible. Our military outpost in Iraq was attacked with...