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Again, are we projecting our current day standards on scripture?And consider this..... before the fall, there was no marriage. (Oh boy! Don't read too much into that.) But marriage ceremonies and contracts weren't a thing until after the fall. But God still set the precedence ....one man, one woman.
God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. It doesn't matter what time we are in ....modern day, or 5,000 years ago ....God has not changed.Again, are we projecting our current day standards on scripture?
Seriously?This is what happens when people discount the authority of the Word of God. And these tainted ideologies are exactly why I don't belong to a "church" ....as in a group in a building. And I do not advise any new believer to become linked up with any of today's churches .....especially not survivors of SRA/MK. Today's churches are too much like the satanic cult. And no wonder .....many of them are one and the same. "Christian" by day, satanists by night.... but always satanists.
Seriously?God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. It doesn't matter what time we are in ....modern day, or 5,000 years ago ....God has not changed.
Told you so!St. SteVen said:
Again, are we projecting our current day standards on scripture?
Seriously?
Where is the outrage against the social norms of the day in the NT scriptures?
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The body of Christ is not synonymous with a group of people gathering in a building calling themselves "Christians" while discounting the authority of God's Word, and twisting scripture to fit their modern philosophies and lusts.Seriously?
What is the Body of Christ to you?
A bunch of dismembered parts in autonomy?
You talk about the design of marriage. What about God's design for the church?
Did God intend for us to all be isolated, or to all be together?
Seems like a legitimate issue to discuss to me.Told you so!
Everyone wants to argue about legitimate reasons for divorce and what constitutes adultery.
Well. it appears that is what it is. What do you suggest? Disbanding the Body of Christ?The body of Christ is not synonymous with a group of people gathering in a building calling themselves "Christians" while discounting the authority of God's Word, and twisting scripture to fit their modern philosophies and lusts.
Or how about interpreting scripture with scripture? Just maybe it means exactly what it says.The "man of one wife" requirement seemed to have more to do with
who was best qualified in terms of available time for the ministry.
If it means exactly what it ways, then women in leadership is off the table.Or how about interpreting scripture with scripture? Just maybe it means exactly what it says.
Genesis 2:24
[24]Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Ephesians 5:31-32
[31]For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
[32]This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
The body of Christ can't be disbanded. Jesus prayed for our unity, that we would be one as He and His Father are one.Well. it appears that is what it is. What do you suggest? Disbanding the Body of Christ?
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I agree that a marriage relationship is one flesh.Or how about interpreting scripture with scripture? Just maybe it means exactly what it says.
Genesis 2:24
[24]Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Ephesians 5:31-32
[31]For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
[32]This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
I believe scripture as it interprets scripture. God says maidens and women can prophesy (which involves using their mouths in a group of believers) ....and there are many examples of women leading house churches, which Paul himself attended. Scripture should be taken in context, and not singled out and twisted. All scripture fits together. We've already seen a thousand debates on this. And this thread isn't about women in ministry or authority. Deborah was given a place by God which was in authority over men .....take that into account when you think about singling out scriptures to mean what it doesn't mean.If it means exactly what it ways, then women in leadership is off the table.
Do you believe that?
That is your opinion. Go ahead ....get yourself some sex slaves and more wives than your current wife and then try to convince her that you actually love her. And then you'll stand before God.I agree that a marriage relationship is one flesh.
The historic cultural situation of polygamy or "consorts" does not undo that.
These other relations are added to the original one.
Scripture does not forbid it.
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Your first wife? You are planning to have more, aren't you?Seems like a legitimate issue to discuss to me.
But what do I know. I've been married to my first wife for 44 years.
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Scripture doesn't ordain it. And yet, Jesus Himself laid out the design. Why add to it? Because you take His Word loosely?I agree that a marriage relationship is one flesh.
The historic cultural situation of polygamy or "consorts" does not undo that.
These other relations are added to the original one.
Scripture does not forbid it.
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Do you have a habit of falsely accusing others of sin or are you just treating this brother special?Your first wife? You are planning to have more, aren't you?
It means, to not have been divorced..
Consider just for a second, that everyone has broken all the commandments, in deed or thought or word.
That includes , everyone., other than Jesus.
So, this verse is speaking not about "head sinning", but about being married more than once, in real life.
Its a initial disqualification. = Pastor., Bishop, Elder.
The verse also disqualifies a woman from becoming a "Pastor", as a woman can't be "" the HUSBAND of one wife.."""
Lesbian PASTORS..... would argue that verse with you, but, dont listen to them.... and dont go to their Church.