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  1. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Jun, Not so! We are told exactly when Adam & Eve became spiritually dead: 15The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17but you must not eat from the tree...
  2. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

  3. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    That sounds awfully subjective to me.
  4. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Nice invention, but it's not what the text states in Greek, in context and throughout the NT.
  5. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Rollo, Are you agreeing that in salvation, human beings have a responsibility to respond to God's offer of salvation? Would you say that human beings have some dimension of free will to be able to respond to God's call? Oz
  6. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    GodsGrace, I appreciated your two questions. As a Reformed Arminian, I do believe in the election of the believer to salvation. The issue is: On what basis does God elect people to salvation? Is it unconditionally, where they have no say in the decision, or it it conditional salvation. See a...
  7. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Did Adam and Eve, although spiritually dead, respond to God using their free will?
  8. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    APAK, That is your personal interpretation. How am I to judge whether that is the correct meaning when this Ministries' interpretation is radically different: 'What did Jesus mean when He said, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30)?' [Got Questions Ministries 2002-2018]? Maybe you chose not...
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    Saved By Fear?

    APAK, I agree that the Holy Spirit does guide in interpreting Scripture. But it also takes the hard work of exegesis - getting the meaning out of the biblical text and not inserting my meaning into the text (eisegesis). My honest question to you is: How does the Holy Spirit's involvement in...
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    Saved By Fear?

    Could Adam and Eve, spiritually dead, respond to God with their free will? See Ge 3:8-13 NIV): 8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God...
  11. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    So, what is your basic understanding of the dimensions of determinism? Do you understand such a theology as Christian determinism?
  12. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    aspen, How do you define 'determinism'? When a person accepts this position, that person will need to accept the consequences that flow from that philosophical / theological perspective. Oxford dictionaries online defines 'determinism' as: The doctrine that all events, including human action...
  13. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    "you didn't respond to the CONTENT of what I wrote".
  14. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Red Herring fallacy again.
  15. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    I'm one of those, as the Bible teaches it and I've provided biblical support above.
  16. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    To whom are you addressing this question?
  17. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Again, you don't respond to what I wrote.
  18. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Still not answering the issues I raise but you head off into your Calvinistic stereotype and hope I don't notice. So, 'God foreknows the person, and chooses'. What does that mean? Are you saying that God doesn't foreknow the person's choices? If you don't address what I write when you back...
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    Saved By Fear?

    Does the will of God include his sovereign will to create all the evil in our world?
  20. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    You are not listening to the Scriptures I present. See: An explanation of simple foreknowledge. So, God frees the will of all human beings to say yea or nay to the Gospel of salvation when it is preached or taught (Titus 2:11 NIRV), which states, 'God’s grace has now appeared. By his grace, God...