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  1. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Thank you for helping me better understand how I communicate. Oz
  2. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    It doesn't state that God unconditionally elects / predestines people to salvation or damnation. It indicates that the all-knowing foreknowledge of God enables God to know who are saved. How that election takes place is the difference between Arminianism and Calvinism, with your support of the...
  3. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Taken, I am not speaking about choice in regard to a burger vs fish and chips. This is choice in regard to salvation. The freeing of the will to accept or reject salvation is clearly stated in Titus 2:11, 'God’s grace has now appeared. By his grace, God offers to save all people' (NIRV). The...
  4. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Rollo, I gave you a link in #233 to show the connection between Augustine's theology and Calvin's. Does your granddaughter live in the region of Africa, bordering the Mediterranean Sea? Augustine was from the Kingdom of Numidia (incorporates some of Tunisia, Algeria and Libya today). If you...
  5. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Excellent question! These are some of my thoughts: God would not want to save those who are hostile towards him on earth and would not bow the knee. They wouldn't want to be in His presence, so they CHOOSE to reject him. Remember Christopher Hitchens' book, God Is Not Great: How Religion...
  6. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    FC, If God unconditionally elects some people to salvation and He made that decision before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4-5), there is absolutely no point in evangelism. I talked this over with a Presbyterian Minister who believes in TULIP. I asked: Why don't you do outreach evangelism...
  7. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    GodsGrace, When you speak of God's nature, are you describing his attributes? How does Heb 12:29 - a quote from the OT - fit with your understanding of 'God is love': our ‘God is a consuming fire' (NIV). Was God acting in love when he wiped out the entire human race, except for 8, in the...
  8. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    I agree. Do you realise that quite a deal of Calvinistic theology came from St. Augustine? See: Augustine's Influence on Calvin, Luther, and Zwingli | The ... Oz
  9. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    GodsGrace, Have you read Albert Mohler's book, We Cannot Be Silent? Here's a Review by The Gospel Coalition. Oz
  10. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

  11. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Human beings DO have free will and it started with the first 2 human beings. God gave them choice. Even this Calvinistic site (Got Questions?) agrees with me: God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and...
  12. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    The other dimension was stated clearly in 1 Peter 1:1-2 (ESV): 'To those who are elect ... according to the foreknowledge of God the Father'. Not elect according to the will of God but elect according to God's foreknowledge. Do you get it? It's nothing like a Calvinistic view of double...
  13. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Is that a human will that is free in relation to salvation - free to accept or reject salvation?
  14. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Rollo, That's why some of us give up communicating on forums like this. I'm at that stage. Oz
  15. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Stranger, There was another dimension declared in 1 Peter 1:1-2 (ESV): Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who are elect exiles of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the...
  16. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Stranger, If some Bible teacher states a doctrine or clears up a biblical verse better than I could, I quote that teacher. Surely God wants us to do this. After all, it was He who gave gifts to the body of Christ to function in the church (Rom 12:7-9; 1 Cor 12:28-31; Eph 4:11-12). I thank God...
  17. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    Please forgive this down-to-earth example. Before Dad owned sugar cane farms, he earned his bread & butter for the family by cutting burnt & sticky sugar cane, carrying the stalks on his shoulder to the tram on the railway line or to the truck to take to the derrick where it was hoisted onto...
  18. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    You provide no biblical evidence but provide your own opinion. I suggest you check out what the Scriptures indicate. See: 'Are demons and fallen angels the same thing?'
  19. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    So, what does 'elect' mean in 'elect angels' in 1 Tim 5:21? Are they elected to their heavenly position in the same way that human beings are elected? Are there elect demons?
  20. OzSpen

    Saved By Fear?

    For whom is salvation through Christ's blood sacrifice designed? Human beings or angels? What process is involved in making angels elect? What kind of initiative would God have to take to make 'salvation' possible for angels? What kind of propitiatory sacrifice would be needed to make demons...