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Yes Revelation 19 11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. Nothing about the bride descending out of heaven in it, did you mean a different verse? No verse in revelation chapter 19...

Revelation 19 doesn't mention the bride descending out of heaven

I'm not sure what the issue is here, there is only one time in the verses that you asked about that shows the bride coming down out of heaven and only chapter 19 mentions the wedding why do you think that they are the same events? Chapter 19 is before the great white throne judgment and...

Okay that is explained better and I agree thanks. But back to the mark of the beast, if that's unforgivable then what is it exactly according to John 3:16? It can't be a literal mark.

No I didn't say that and once again I am clarfiying that it can't be forgiven, i'm trying to show what th emark actually is.

But that rule applies to anyone who doesn't repent of any sin and die in unbelief thus none repentance (continued rejection of Jesus) as I said is the unforgivable sin.

I have no idea why you provided those verses, what does that have to do with people who repent? They didn't mention people who repented.

Yes I agree but you also confuse me here because you say that the unforgivable sin is rejecting the very POWER of God working through Jesus which is what Paul did but Paul was forgiven.

What I was saying is that if the pharisees committed the unforgivable sin then Paul did too but we know that he didn't.

Its not what I'm saying and you know it, I'm using the scriptures to reveal what the mark actually is, its not forgivable thus it has to be blasphemy of the holy Spirit.

I'm not saying that he did but if he thought that Jesus was a false prophet then he would of thought that Jeus' healing power was not from God

Thats not what I’m saying, your insinuating that I said something that I didn’t say, you can’t repent of the mark, I,m disputing what the mark is

Yes but by your standards here you can't blame the other Pharisees either. What I'm saying here is that rejecting the Holy Spirit is also rejecting Jesus which is the unforgivable sin unless you repent and believe. Thus, the bible reveals to us that unrepentant rejection of the Holy Spirit is...

Its the Holy Spirit who draws and reveals Jesus to us, thus Paul did reject the Holy Spirit from the day of Pentecost till the day of his conversion.

Rejecting forever is blasphemy its rejecting the Holy Spirit as God. How do you explain Paul being able to repent?

Yes and that is also rejecting the Holy Spirit, remember Paul was rejecting the power of the Holy Spirit in Jesus at one time.

Not sure why you're saying this but they don't enter heaven because they are martyred they enter heaven because they are saved just like we are. If not then we enter heaven because of what we do not what Jesus did which we know isn't true. For example, if one of those left behind believed and...

Yes all sinners do but they can be saved if they repent just like Paul who was a Pharisee who persecuted the church and at one time rejected Jesus repented and was saved.

In you view then, how come Paul who was a Pharisees who opposed and persecuted the church could repent?

Do you not think rejecting the Holy Spirit is insulting to God? In you view then, how come Paul who was a Pharisees who opposed and persecuted the church could repent?