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  1. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nope, just showing you what you were doing--emptily asserting this-and-that about what I'd said, all without offering any substantive argument. If you complain that what i said was me "being childish", and I was just showing you what you were doing, what are you saying about yourself?
  2. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You don't have to discuss anything here. No one is forcing you. Here's how it works: 1. You make your point. 2. Your point gets debunked. 3. You humble yourself and acknowledge you were wrong. Lol All the drama and gobbledygook your side is known for is not part of the process, and should...
  3. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    @ChristianSoldier No one is forcing you to discuss. If you're going to keep emptily rattling off your views, not engaging, you would do better to see yourself out. At some point I'm going to put you on ignore. I can't stand being made to clarify, re-clarify, bc the other person is playing games.
  4. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nope, He gave to each "according to his ability"--and the Lord faulted the servant for not doing what he could have done ("you should have brought My money to the bank so that I could at least have received interest"). Names can be blotted out of the Book of Life even if they had been written...
  5. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Ro 11 says Gentile believers, grafted in by faith, can also be cut off for unbelief. Goes with Deut 32:5 "they are NO LONGER His children because of their defect" (they used to becHis children, but are no longer His children), and Hos 1 describes the same dynamic.
  6. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    I am going by Scripture. If you disagree with the Scripture, or my view of it, address what you opine are the errors in the exegesis. Coming on here and emptily rattling off your views without addressing specifics of what you claim are misinterpretations is not helpful.
  7. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. You are speculating, whereas I read God sent angels to verify a thing. 2. You're not even approaching answering what I said. I'm seeing that you're not interested in actually discussing the subject, but in maintaining a mere cosmetic appearance of "discussing", and of having answers. I won't...
  8. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    No, actually, as I have observed is your wont, you're reshaping what others say to preserve your view. You can reread and try again.
  9. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    "Sticky Tape" : It's just called believing EVERYTHING written, not just strips of it here and there. I'm not saying it "now", as if I'm being caused to backpedal, I merely commented on it, and how it coalesces with Mt 18, because you raised the issue. The Lord gave the servant a measure of...
  10. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    As everyone can read, this has already, more than once, been explained : "they are no longer His children because of their defect" (Dt 32:5), and Hos 1, prove that being a child of God is not a static irreversible reality. Romans 11 says the same. God doesn't cast His children into hell, they...
  11. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Let me help you : only believers are forgiven all their debt, thus in a position to have forgiveness rescinded. No, believers aren't cast into hell, because their talent, on loan from the Lord, is stripped away--their righteousness of faith is forgotten, as God warns (Ez 18:24), so that they...
  12. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    1. I have proven my point, not merely "given it a good go". What I have said is plainly the case. 2. You said you do not dare to speculate about "the secret things [which] belong to the LORD", but you're speculating that "God doesn't respond to anything". Where does Scripture say that? God sent...
  13. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    So, in your view, God forgave the servant, and then rescinded the forgiveness, because God made the servant not forgive, and then Jesus instructs behavior (ie, forgive others, or else God will rescind His forgiveness) all while knowing God may go ahead and override anyone trying to follow His...
  14. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Hebrews 3 14For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end, We have become partakers of Christ only if we hold fast until the end--otherwise, that history of our having partaken of Christ, our "righteousness of faith", is "forgotten"...
  15. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    This parable doesn't help your position : the Lord had lent the servant a talent of his own money, expecting an in-kind harvest, and, because the servant did not act in faith, but was "wicked", what had been deposited to him (a measure of faith) was stripped from him, so that he never had faith...
  16. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Oh, really? Any text you read to come to any conclusion you make is being misread, then. What part of what I have said is a misunderstanding? Prove I have misunderstood.
  17. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    You, to preserve your view (instead of rethinking your view around the parable), tried denying forgiveness had taken place before being rescinded, in the parable we've been discussing. Is that what we should learn is how you show respect for God's Word?
  18. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Nah. Again, as if you need to be told, parables teach spiritual truths using earthly imagery : the "debt" refers to what we owe God on account of our sins, and Jesus says "so will My Father do to you if you do not forgive your brother from the heart", so it has practical application to our...
  19. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    Jeremiah 18 5Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 6“Am I not able, house of Israel, to deal with you as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in My hand, house of Israel. 7At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or...
  20. GracePeace

    OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

    No, if God sets contingencies, "If you do A, I will do B, but if you do C, then I will do D," that isn't Him "changing His mind", that's Him laying out contingencies. If afterward He did not honor His Word (not possible) about those scenarios, then you could complain He was "changing His mind".