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  1. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    You’re clearly not thinking this through. So let’s walk through it carefully—and I expect real answers this time, not deflection or mockery. 1.) When did the Jews (Old Testament congregation) lose their kingdom representation? Jesus said plainly in Matthew 21:42–43 that the kingdom of God...
  2. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    “LOL”? That’s all you’ve got after completely dodging my actual point? You’re so eager to sound smug that you missed the entire focus of my post. I never denied the general gospel progression—from Israel to the Gentiles. We all know Matthew 22 illustrates the gospel being rejected by the...
  3. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    No—you’re the one missing it and the one making a fool of. Luke 21 is not some localized evacuation plan for Jews living in first-century Jerusalem. The Olivet Discourse is not about national Israel—it's addressed to Christ’s New Testament congregation, the Church. That’s who His disciples...
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    The "watch rapture view"

    Wow—LOL with 30 exclamation points. That’s the kind of deep theological rebuttal I’ve come to expect when someone runs out of Scripture and substance. If you’re “done with this nonsense,” that’s fine. Not everyone can handle real Bible discussion when it goes beyond surface-level Sunday school...
  5. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Sure! If you understand the context first... Mat 22:1-8 (1) And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, (2) The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, (3) And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the...
  6. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Ah, yes… the old “you must not believe in anything physical” accusation—classic fallback when someone can't answer spiritual truth with Scripture. I never denied that the physical temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Of course it was. No one is disputing that. What you fail to grasp is that Jesus...
  7. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Thought so. I rest my case. :gd
  8. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    What a joke. Looking for proof or interpreation from Josephus's "Jewish War"? Titus was NOT Christian. Romans often attributed military victories to the favor of their respective deities. This was a widespread belief, not exclusive to Christianity. He believed in divine assistance; there's no...
  9. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Wrongo, as usual. You’re missing the point by focusing only on physical events like the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD. Yes, unbelieving Jews were judged for rejecting Christ, but the deeper and more immediate judgment was spiritual—not merely a building falling decades later. Jesus...
  10. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Listen. What happened to these original seven churches in scripture after God warned against some of them?
  11. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Thought so! @Spiritual Israelite has no answer to this.
  12. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    True because you have an unteachable spirit. Sigh… Even the churches that were found faithful—like Philadelphia and Smyrna—which the Lord did not threaten with removal, no longer exist today as congregations in those cities. They’re gone. And what about the other five? The ones Christ...
  13. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Very unlikely. But like I said before, The Lord judges and I am comfortable with it. You still don’t get it, babe in Christ. So let me make this as clear as Scripture does—and I won’t keep repeating myself: The context of Matthew 24, apart from verses 1–2 which reference the fall of the Old...
  14. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Nope. It is to point out that you're interpreting spiritual matters—specifically, prophecy—through a carnal or natural lens rather than a spiritual one. Paul contrasts the natural and spiritual mind, not just in terms of salvation, but in terms of discernment. A believer can still think...
  15. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Let’s clear this up, because your question reveals the exact contradiction I’ve been pointing out! No, I don’t deny that there were seven literal churches in the Roman province of Asia in the first century. That’s a historical fact. But where you go wrong is in claiming that Jesus was speaking...
  16. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Let’s set the record straight—I never said you weren’t saved. That’s a false accusation, and you know it. Don’t put words in my mouth just because you’re uncomfortable being challenged on doctrine. I’ve addressed your interpretation, not your salvation. If you can’t separate a doctrinal...
  17. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    :rolleyes: Oh sure, God was totally referring to some special “Judean Church” in prophecy—because that phrase is everywhere in Scripture, right? Please. I know for a fact that’s not what the Lord had in mind. But hey, what can you expect from people who clearly have no idea what Jesus was...
  18. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    Beware... Just because ChatGPT repeated something you agree with doesn’t make it Truth. AI—including ChatGPT—is not the arbiter of truth. It pulls from a wide range of sources, including those steeped in false doctrine. It doesn’t speak by the Spirit of God, nor does it provide divine...
  19. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    That’s a lie—and a blatant misrepresentation of what I actually said. I never denied that there were churches in Judea that God preserved. What I did challenge is the false idea of some distinct theological category called “the Judaean Church” as if it were a separate class within the Body of...
  20. TribulationSigns

    The "watch rapture view"

    ...if you receive it. I noticed that you failed to mention the church in Ephesus and Laodicea. :rolleyes: I believe that the seven churches of Revelation 2 and 3 located in Asia (what is now Turkey) are used to represent the "Universal Church." Oh no, you must panic attack becasue of the...