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Nope, 1. The guy had already received forgiveness, and 2. Jesus said it pertains to us, His disciples. How many people who don't yet believe are already forgiven? Your misunderstanding has been corrected. Answer Matthew 18.

Whatever you have to tell yourself. I simply believe like a child.

Please clarify.

Please keep chatter to a minimum and comment on topic.

Not sure how that's relevant.

Your view is carnal mine is spiritual.

You're completely missing the point. I look forward to you addressing the point, not getting sidetracked by terminology.

Still, they're told they'll live IF and die IF, just as Romans 6, so your view is not sensical. That's been debunked. No, Paul doesn't say that, as explained. He says to mortify... just as in Ro 8:12,13, debunking your view that it's about identity. He does. You're addressing the METHOD of...

My view is spiritual, yours is carnal.

IF by the spirit you mortify the deeds of the flesh you will live is a contingency, and IF you walk after the flesh you will die is a contingency--parallel with the command not to submit your members to sin unto death but to God unto life in Ro 6--so "no dice".

Mt 18 says he'd been forgiven, but refused to do the same, so, in response to his injustice, the King rescinded the forgiveness. Jesus says God will do the same to us--if the ones He forgave don't forgive, He will rescind His forgiveness. Loss of salvation. Other than the fact that you may be...

No, they're an example of the OP--not all remain.

Jesus says the forgiveness, once received, can be rescinded. I simply believe Jesus.

He cried for God not to take His Spirit away--and, yes, all sin is idolatry ("no covetous man who is an idolater"), hence 1 Jn 2:28, 5:21.

I know that you and many other numbskulls here know God. I don't deny that. I know that you, at least sometimes, actually want to help me. The reality is, though, that you do not hold a coherent view of Scripture. I'm here to talk about Scripture. You may know God without having a coherent view...

Really? Why, then, did Paul warn "Anyone who disregards this [prohibition on immorality] disregards not man but God Who gives you His Spirit"--why did David, after committing adultery, cry, "Do not cast me away from Your Presence, do not take Your Holy Spirit away from me!" if God would never...

@Taken And again they are an example of the fact that we remain by obeying (1 Jn 3:23,24).

It says Paul preached the Gospel, they believed, they received the Spirit. It says they "ran well" but were now being hindered from obeying the truth. They had believed, but were no longer believing. Hence Paul was "again" in labor pains trying to form Christ in them again (Gal 4:19). You keep...

Not really sure what this is about. More empty emotional ranting.

People who fellowship with God act to bring others into fellowship with God (1 John 1). That is what it means to live for God's glory--you reveal God's righteousness (Ro 1:17, 3:27, 14:5), and the result is that others come into fellowship with Him, or, if they are Christian, are edified. I...