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Paul says they received the Spirit, but now had gone awry. You say "no". What can I say? I accept that you reject what Paul says.

I really am not sure what "lesson" I'm supposed to learn by you not being on topic, ranting emptily, being emotional. "I, @Taken, WILL BE EMOTIONAL, OFF-TOPIC, AND RANT EMPTILY AND MEANINGLESSLY!" Is that my "lesson"? I already learned that a long time ago. I learned that when ever you chime...

Anyway, we're getting off on a tangent. Do you believe what Jesus said about the subject--that God can forgive someone's sins, so they are saved, but, afterward, rescind that forgiveness, so that they are no longer saved?

Yeah, that's the topic. Matthew 7 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a...

@Taken Because the post is not correctly formatted, I cannot "reply" to it. Paul says in Galatians 3 that they had received the Spirit because they had "begun" by the spirit, but that they were now, by means of believing a false Gospel, trying to be perfected by the flesh, so, no, we know for...

I think you think "I never knew you" "proves" they were never "truly believers", but I think you need to remember that Ezekiel 18 says God can "forget" righteousness--which actually goes to the OP, where God rescinds forgiveness, which means that the person's faith, which, in the NT, is "counted...

So, you are defining the false prophets of Matthew 7 as people whom the Lord had forgiven--ie, as truly believing, saved, children of God?

Well, in a discussion, it is expected that the topic be discussed. You can be a brute, and rampage all over the place. I don't have the "authority" to stop that. You're right. I would expect Christians to behave differently though.

So you accept what Jesus says in Matthew 18--that God can and will rescind forgiveness from some? I'm not saying it's instantaneous. The timing is not the point.

1. Your answer is "they weren't true believers", but Paul debunks that when he says "You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?" (Gal 5:7). 2. Please respond to the topic--Romans 8:1 and Romans 14:23.

First, let me ask : do you accept that God can rescind forgiveness?

Just respond to the topic.

Sounds great, actually. LOL You literally ask the same questions that have been answered year after year, whereas I keep finding more and more evidence against your views.

Sounds nice.

We each have our view.

Everybody, let's stay on topic.

You, Eternally Grateful, et al, and I have already had that discussion at length--at the end of it, after you all got debunked, you all just stopped interacting--and it is off topic. Please remain on topic.

"Sir, this is a Wendy's." This is the General Discussion area.

So you have nothing to say about the topic right?

Yeah, and we see the Galatians DID NOT "let that abide in [them] which you heard from the beginning", with the result they were "deserting God" (Gal 1:6) and were "cut off from Christ" after having received the Spirit (Gal 3:1+). When God forgets someone's righteousness (in the NT, "faith is...