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  1. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Yeah, and those who live that way are condemned, not justified, in the present, and in the future, without repentance, and they will die and not live (Ro 8:12,13). What is the literary device I'm misunderstanding? Nope, they're fulfilling the Law by Grace as Paul says . Again, walking by...
  2. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    No, the one who doesn't walk in grace is condemned (Ro 14:23). It wasn't for wont of grace, but for not walking in it, but walking after the flesh (which you admitted Christians do) that he will ne condemned, not justified, and die and not inherit life (Ro 8:12,13) bc of not doing the Law by the...
  3. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Oops! 1. How does one get forgiven all their sins? Through Christ, right? 2. Jesus told His disciples to go teach the nations everything He taught them, so this pertains to Jesus's disciples today, men who've been forgiven all their debts through faith in Christ's death on our behalves. But...
  4. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Guy, the unforgiving servant had had all his debts forgiven. Is that a Christian, a believer in Jesus, or no? Do you know another way of being forgiven all your sins? So far, we have another user who calls Jesus "liar". Two users call Jesus "liar". Anyone else?
  5. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    We have one person who says "Jesus is a liar", anyone else want to share their opinion?
  6. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    So, "Jesus is a liar". Mathew 18 35"That is how My heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart.” OK Thanks for sharing your opinion.
  7. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Yup, it is. "When we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, aroused by the Law": a) it's PAST-TENSE ("were"), and b) Christians aren't in the flesh but in the spirit (Ro 8:9). The guy in Romans 7 can't fulfill the Law, but Paul can (Ro 8:9). The guy in Romans 7 is full of covetousness--but no...
  8. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Yes, it is: those who walk in the spirit fulfill the Law (Ro 8:4). Nope, "doers of the Law will be justified", and the Christian who does not walk in faith is "condemned" because "anything that does not proceed from faith is sin" (Ro 14:23). Yeah, both are true, as stated. Nope, "works" is...
  9. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    He thanks God that through Christ it occurs--because Christ brings the body of sin to nothing (Ro 6:6). That description of a Jew under the Law who is mastered by sin (Ro 6:14) in Romans 7 is PRE-CHRIST. No, those Gentiles don't even know the Law, so how are they "under Law"? It says they "by...
  10. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Isn't it both? They're justified by faith in Christ, and they WILL BE JUSTIFIED WHEN GOD JUDGES IN THE FUTURE because they are doers of the Law today? But it's not counted as justification by works because it's not their own righteousness but God's righteousness (again "not I but the grace with...
  11. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Wouldn't you agree that not walking after the spirit is also walking after the flesh (Ro 8:12,13)--that that is also "not remaining in Christ" (1 Jn 2:28), and "not doing the things you are completely convinced are acceptable to God, but doing things you are doubtful are correct" (Ro 14:5, 23)...
  12. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Paul says they're doers of the law, who will be justified, but you want to say "No, that's not true." You have the problem, not me. So, now, you agree they're doers of the Law who will be (future tense) justified? It says they're "doers of the Law". No, I seek to understand doctrines based on...
  13. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Excellent : you agree that sometimes Christians do not walk in the Spirit, then, right? Both are true: Grace is unearned, and those who are doers of the Law are walking in Grace, the unearned gift of righteousness, God's righteousness by the gift of faith, "from faith to faith", not their own...
  14. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Again, you're calling Paul, who says, "doers of the Law... Gentile [believers]", a liar. Paul says they are "doers of the Law"--and based on that they will be "justified".
  15. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    You are contradicting Paul, not me. Gentile believers are deemed "doers of the Law". The text is not going to change, no matter how many times you batter ram it. It is forever. It will not be moved. "doers of the law will be justified"
  16. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    How am I "interpreting" it wrong? Those who walk by the spirit fulfill the Law (Ro 8:4)--and the Gentile believers who walk by the spirit are deemed "doers of the law" who will be "justified". You have a problem with that, I accept it. NOW, as to how to square that with being saved by grace...
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    It's not that bad unless my diet is really bad. The better my diet is the better dialysis goes. It's mostly annoying. It breaks my days apart.
  18. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Gentile believers are "doers of the Law". The content which Paul cites is "do not steal" "do not commit adultery" and "do not commit idolatry" (Ro 2:20-22)--obvious things.
  19. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    I noted that Paul says doers of the Law will be justified, and then cites the Gentile believers as "doers of the Law". Your argument against this is "No, that's not true". You, separately, raised the question "What are the righteous requirements of the Law?" It's not relevant, because, HOW EVER...