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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I said there is a superficial contradiction between Ro 8:1 and 14:23 (the title of the thread)--resolved by observing that not all remain "in Christ", because that is by obeying His commands to i) believe, and ii) walk in love/faith (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24).
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yup. Nope, with the doctrine that our salvation was typed by the salvation of the Jews, and that Paul says we should not incur God's wrath on ourselves, from which we had been saved, by sinning as they sinned. I'm not speaking about the method of righteousness (Law or Grace), but merely...
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    OK I believe our salvation was typed by that of the Jews from Egypt according to 1 Corinthians 10.
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    In fact, I've recently argued against the idea that believers are under the Law, so why would I ever have said that you are to follow the OT Laws? I wouldn't have--and didn't. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/no-law-under-grace.57886/page-3#post-1849369
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Galatians was written by Paul--same author of Corinthians. No one said to follow the OT Laws--if you think I did, show me where I did.
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Whichever part, assuming he is referring to having spoken with them about Scripture during that previous meeting, it will have had no bearing on the fact that 1 Co 10 teaches our salvation was typed by that of the Jews from Egypt. Whoever wants to be like Paul, as he follows Christ, should...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1 Corinthians 10 1For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea; 2and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and all ate the same spiritual food; 4and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They were under the cloud = the Holy Spirit (the cloud was the cloud of the Presence Ex 34:5; Nu 12:5). They were baptized into Moses = baptism into Christ They ate and drank spiritual food and drink = the Lord's supper Obviously, what preceded this was the Passover, when they were saved by the...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Of course Christians can sin. 1 Corinthians 10 says our salvation was like the salvation of the Jews from Egypt--THEREFORE, let us not sin, as they sinned, and bring God's wrath, which we had been saved from, down on ourselves, thus, fail to inherit the Promised Land ("fight the good fight of...
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I'm not saying "everyone on this forum abides in Christ", just that there are some who do, but, invariably, there're defects in their understanding of Scripture, so they're unhelpful.
  11. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Knowing good and evil isn't how men were created to operate; knowing the glory of God was always the way men were meant to operate. "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6) means "apart from the Law". The Law is good if it is used lawfully--to condemn sinners, not for those righteous by knowing...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    There are people on this forum who abide in Christ. They know the God of Scripture, but not the Scripture of the God they know, thus they issue unhelpful explanations of Scripture. I can't live with myself twisting my brain into a pretzel like that.
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No takers!? No one who delights in Scripture above their own thoughts!?
  14. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    So, according to you, every Christian in history walked after the flesh, not after the spirit, proven by the fact that they physically died, right?
  15. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    I will regard topics raised by God.
  16. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Romans 8:12,13 says if the Christian walks after the flesh, they will die and not live. The passage doesn't say their sins will be imputed to Christ if they sin, it says they will be condemned and they will die--not just referring to physical death, either (that would mean every Christian in...
  17. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    So, how is it relevant that sin is not counted when there is no Law if death still reigned, which would have implications for Christians (who are not under Law), which is exactly what Paul says Romans 8:12,13? You seem unacquainted with the material.
  18. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Not sure if you're aware, but that guy, "Arthur", is a radical "pro-LGBT" "Christian", so he's likely reading what you're saying in a completely different way than you're intending it. He's probably thinking, "Here is the proof that we can commit abominations--we're not under Law!"
  19. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Romans 5 12Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all mene because all sinned— 13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. 14Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even...