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So then you agree with the words of God that righteous is as righteous does, whether by works (like Phihehas) or faith (like Abraham)?

@marks said...."Is this truly what you think, that I give no consideration towards how I "rightly divide the Word of Truth"? That I just chop it up based on personal likes and dislikes?" Yes. The reason is that you don't admit you are poor, naked, wretched, and blind as it says in plain...

Ps. 106:30 Then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment: and so the plague was stayed. 31 And that was counted unto him for righteousness unto all generations for evermore. Killing people in this case also was deemed to be righteous by God. Phinehas' works were righteous. Plain scripture that...

There are two sides of the coin for a non-participation in the New Covenant. 1. People lose heart...they give up since there doesn't seem to be any way forward...so they drop out of the race. 2. People claim to have already personally entered into Christ and are bearing eternal...

This is a confession on your part. If there is an inner man somewhere inside that twisted flesh of yours...it would say... "Epi, you are right. Everything I feel about my own flesh is being twisted around and comes out as an accusation of the people who are just trying to help me with my outer...

I actually exercise my faith...in reality...not only by claiming to. A real faith gets God's attention. A human belief is what you are talking about. God does not respond to that. Faith is good...but beliefs are just religious suppositions...and that is what you are presenting here as faith...

What's new is the New Covenant...that people claim to have entered into... but not really. It's "fake it till you make it" for these. It's live the lie until its no longer a lie (hopefully). :rolleyes:

The question is always...why can't it be both? Why can't God receive my inner man AND my rebellious outer man. The answer is that God only gives grace to the inner man..the humble part of us. But He resists the proud...the outer man part of us. This is as basic as it gets. There is no...

It's wiser to learn humility than to try realizing just how advanced you are. Do a study on humility. Then do a study on being lifted up in one's own estimation. Which one is biblical and right? What would a righteous person do?

Basically...you are saying that there is a premise...and we are trying to live up to that premise????? But you have to understand Paul and what He is saying first. Claiming a verse for yourself...that isn't yet true for you..should lead you to seek God...not name and claim something because a...

SBG is on a roll today! :woohoo!:

"Remember it wasn't Abraham's righteousness that was credited to him for righteousness, it was his faith." This statement is a beauty...the statement of the day so far. How a mind can conjure up such a ridiculously muddled statement and pretend to be serious is beyond me. Religion does CRAZY...

What a wise post. I wish the immature here could see that you are speaking with much more wisdom than they can take in. Bless you sister...for your patience, kindness, and will, in right doing before the Lord and toward the truth. :)

Boy, a lot of religious egos got bruised on this thread. That means the truth is being preached and taught. Are we to cater, to stroke, to allow ourselves to be bullied by ....religious egos? No. We are to resist the flesh, the devil, and the worldly pull. If believers are THAT immature to...

Yes...a very great underestimation of who God is.

Actually that is imputed (not imparted). Imparted sounds too real. The word imputed sounds better if you mean make-believe. And the true imputation is according to our own righteousness...not God's. God would never impute His righteousness to someone..as if God would say..there goes somebody...

I've actually put on the pounds in middle age. But thanks for the encouragement. :)

I know you think you are as righteous as God in your sins ...because you say so. To me...and the bible...it is lunacy. I know what the walk in Zion is. I have walked there for extended periods. And I'm learning to not be a spoiled Gentile...learning what righteousness is in human form...what we...

As long as you see you are of the first statement. Do you not claim the righteousness of God as your own even as you sin. So then that makes you a liar...no? I don't claim any righteousness. I am still learning human righteousness...as it is laid out in scripture...as Paul said...instruction...

You are being rude..not part of the discussion. Take your malcontent elsewhere if you will. You have exposed who you are.