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  1. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Mungo, It's amazing the theological gymnastics you can pull off when you don't quote the entire verses. Let's look at these verses in context: 26 Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” 27...
  2. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Bread cannot literally be fleshly body, so it must be a figure of speech - a metaphor. Wine cannot literally be Jesus' blood, so it must be figure of speech - a metaphor. That's the only logical interpretation that makes sense of the semantics. Oz
  3. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Are you telling me that since Jesus said it is wrong to murder and steal that that is not included in the New Covenant and that it is OK for Christians to steal, murder and worship false gods? So what if a website is a Protestant website! Do you have such a bias against Protestantism that you...
  4. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    You missed the point. Jesus still used a figure of speech - a metaphor - for 'I am the door', but as he used a figure of speech for the example you gave of the body and blood. Could you have a blind spot with this one, based on your RC interpretation? Oz
  5. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Kepha, This is no more literal than when Jesus said: Ever heard of a metaphor and what it means? Oz
  6. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Tom, Don't you read the NT and its commandments? Matt 5:21 (ESV), 'You shall not murder'. Matt 19:18-19 (ESV), 'Jesus said, “You shall not murder, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not steal, You shall not bear false witness, 19 Honour your father and mother, and, You shall love your...
  7. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Please document proof of what you have stated here.
  8. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    You will learn to interpret Scripture when you learn the grammar of the language of the text and interpret its meaning in immediate and extended context.
  9. OzSpen

    Keep His Commandments.

    Are you agreeing with these commandments of God? Deuteronomy 22:22: “If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel”; Leviticus 20:10: “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife— with the...
  10. OzSpen

    The Proof That Trees Have Souls

    David, You'll get a divergence of Christian views on the soul-spirit issue. The following is a snippet of my understanding. Obviously, the body refers to human flesh. In 1 Cor 15:39 (ESV) it is recorded, "For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals...
  11. OzSpen

    Keep His Commandments.

    Now please tell us what you want to discuss.
  12. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    You have not shown me where Rev 17 & 18 refer to the RCC. You have imposed your belief on it. You have not exegeted the Scripture. If you cannot demonstrate the RCC is mentioned in Rev 17 & 18, then you should quit your niggling NOW and go away and enjoy your popcorn! :popcorn:
  13. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Perhaps you should learn to interpret what the text says and not read your ideology/theology into the text.
  14. OzSpen

    Is belief in the existence of God irrational?

    Daniel, How can it be irrational when there is a stack of evidence around us. Let's start with where Paul told us to begin in Romans 1:18-32 (ESV): 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the...
  15. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Have you missed this verse in your Bible? 'Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger' (Eph 4:26 ESV).
  16. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    I am very much up to speed with the hermeneutics of the Book of Revelation. I read it regularly and learn from it. However, there is not a single word in that book that tells me in Rev 17 and 18 about the RCC. Please show me where the RCC is mentioned in Revelation. Or is this your far-out...
  17. OzSpen

    When did the universal Church first mentioned in 110AD stop being universal?

    Not a single word is stated in those chapters about the Roman Catholic Church. Zero, zilch! That may be your idiosyncratic interpretation, but not a single word is mentioned about the RCC.
  18. OzSpen

    The Proof That Trees Have Souls

    It sure doesn't sound like you want a serious conversation. :rolleyes: Mark 11:12-14 (NIV) states: An argument from silence is a logical fallacy. Oz