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I have studied Revelation and other parts of the bible for over 50 years. I am non-denominational and don't present any specific group's point of view. I also have discussed with Jews (Judaism) at their countermissionary site, Messiah Truth, about what they believe ever since 2004, and have...

Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female. We don't know if God brought the animals into the near vicinity of the ark or not. But most likely, God drew the animals to the...

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, hailed as the messiah. 4 days later, He was crucified, cutoff. 4 days is what decimal fraction of the next 7 years ? 7 x 360 days/yr = 2520 days. 4 days/2520 days = 0.001587 So 4 days into the 70th week of 7 years that would be .001587 into the final 7 year...

It appears as though that you are right, sort of. But wrong on saying that Noah and his family and the animals were shut in the ark after one day. Beginning 7 days before the flood begin, Noah started rounding up animals. Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by...

Your post lacks the very critical issue of the identification of the vision in the text of verses 21, 22, 23, 24.

Your argument does not address the vision being referred to in verses 21.22. 23, 24.

(5) seal up the vision and prophecy, Before getting to Daniel 9:24, it is important to note what vision would be completed within the 70 weeks. We start with verse 21. 21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being...

Before getting to Daniel 9:24, it is important to note what vision would be completed within the 70 weeks. We start with verse 21. 21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the...

Hi CTK, it sounds like you are SDA ? I don't have any problem with SDA's personally, but I do disagree with some of SDA beliefs... such as the pope/papacy is the Antichrist.

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Not coming "again" in the kjv. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and...

@WPM started this thread - titling it "the absurdity of Pre-trib logic". So I think he has the responsibility to prove that the rapture could not - possibly, might, - happen before the 7 year 70th week begins. I don't disagree with you that @WPM and I are not even remotely on the same page -...

Ezekiel 39:29 is Jesus speaking in the text after having returned to this earth in Ezekiel 39:21, His Second Coming. During the 7 years following Gog/Magog, the Jews who do not presently believe that Jesus is the Lord their God made manifest by entering this world, to take on the body of a man...

You have not proven that the rapture could not - possibly, might, - happen before the 7 year 70th week begins.

Ezekiel 39:29 does not take place until after Israel has spent 7 months burying the dead of Gog's army in a massive grave site to be called Hamongog. Ezekiel 39:11-12. That grave site does not exist yet, because Ezekiel 39 is still future.

In Revelation 14, Jesus, having a sickle, will destroy the armies surrounding Jerusalem at His Second Coming. To destroy the rest of the armies, those armies stacked up in the rest of Israel, an angel, given a sickle for the same purpose, will destroy those armies, and the blood will flow...

I have heard that argument countless times. Contrary to that argument.... Jesus arrived in Jerusalem, hailed as the messiah in John 12:12-15. Four days later, He was crucified. So the all within one week. That the 7 years is still unfulfilled is found in Ezekiel 39. The 7 years in...

I never said that Revelation 4:1-2 was the actual rapture. I am not saying that the rapture/resurrection is explicitly found in any verse in Revelation. Give the specific Revelation chapter and verse that has the rapture/resurrection event explicitly in it. I am not going to get bogged...

David, you are rationalizing. I am asking for a verse(s) in Revelation that clearly, explicitly, has the rapture/resurrection event in it it.

I gave you the exact verses of Revelation 4:1-2 that I say prefigures the rapture. By the same measure, you give me the Revelation chapter and verse number that has the rapture/resurrection event in it.