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Here's the thing: to believe that Mary remained a virgin you have to do some very shady thinking. For starters, you have to explain why Mat 1:25 doesn't mean what it says. You've got to make up rediculous scienerios or pull examples from the Bible which simply don't fit. Then, you have to...

I already did.

No... Whats weird is that you don't have an answer to who their mother is. We have Joseph and Mary.... Immediate family. Then all of a sudden cousins or distant reletives? No. You are distorting facts and everything you have to support your mythology depends on "what if" or "maybe this...

Context dictates they were. Who else would be their mother?

That is about the stupidest arguememt I have ever heard!

And Cain was the brother of Abel (not his cousin). Dinah was a sister of Rueban ans Levi (not their cousin). Wonferful spin job Tom! I expect nothing but the best from you.... Proper context.... Mat 13 talks about immediate family. Not cousins or uncles.

You are distortong the facts. Read in proper context, there is absolutely no question that these werr Jesus's half brothers and sisters. Joseph is mentioned. Mary is mentioned. Several men and sisters are mentioned. This is Jesus's immediate family. Elizabeth and John the Baptist are not...

There goes that spin....

Absolutely not. Its a plane fact that Catholics continue to deny. Jesus had half brothers and sisters, with Jesus being the oldest.

Yep. It does. Its simply a spin job to say otherwise. This verse alo g with verse 24 says Joseph didn't know (have sex with) Mary until after the birth of Jesus. I didn't have a glass of Pinot Grigio till after I got home from work. I didn't got to work till after I went to the gym. Now...

The destruction of the Jewish temple to me seems insignificant. THAT temple was destroyed when Christ died and rose from the dead. James was a Christian because he recognized Jesus as the Lord. Rhat is proven by Jas 1:1. The problem was that he was still wrestling with grace and works. Grace...

1 John 2:19 convinces me that arguement #1 is correct (that if we fall away, we never were chosen). Some would say hebrews 10:26 (which speaks of the sin of forsaking the assembling of ourselves) woukd state #2 to be correct, and I see that point. I still stick with the notion that we we...

I am addressing the conversation as a whole. James was a Christian, as were his followers (speaking of Jewish Christians under HIS watch as a Pastor). But there is a problem which has been addressed but quickly forgotten: In Acts 15 James only released gentiles from circumcision and the Law...

I hear ya... In regards to the discussions on this board over the last year or so... I have grown very fond of 2 Cor 3.... And thiese verses (though they be about 1950 yeats old) still fit today: 2 Cor 3:14-15: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken...

Biblical evidence says otherwise. I cannot ignore what is written in acts 15 and 21. James clearly supports Jews staying under the Law.

That is absolutely 100% correct! Technically, Paul preached freedom for the Jews also. Yet James did not extend this "freedom" to Jews as well.

Uh.... Yea! Sure!

I suppose that was a bit rude, an sorry about that. But Kerwin, your issues don't make much sense.

Don't quote me boy cause I ain't said...." Yoy won't understand that cause you are not from my world. Kerkin.... I ain't got anything for you

No. Sounds like Kirwin grasping for straws. Again. And again......