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Show me in Scripture where it says man is saved ONLY by hearing and believing the Gospel and I will join you in in your fight to spread the truth. I can quote MULTIPLE passages that tell us what we must do to be saved....none of them say what you just suggested (what your men taught you).

You lost me.....What does that have to do with the subject at hand? Curious Mary

You do realize Charlie that your theory makes ZERO sense? How can members from all denominations that have different teachings on what one must do to be saved with each denomination claiming to have the truth be the ONE true Church? That makes no sense. They are not ONE when they disagree with...

Yup, God pitted James and Paul against each other and gave them conflicting messages. They then wrote what God inspired them to write in an effort to confuse Christianity for eternity....That makes sense :joyful:

OMG...You are right. I did not know that Jesus was without sin. Thank you for educating me. :goodj: Yes, the leaders of our water cult were all baptized...with water...and us Christians continue that cultish practice, 2,000 years later. Cult Member Mary

Lol....OK!! A student of the Apostles was wrong and your men, 2,000 years later are right!! :goodj:

You crack me up behold.....The Church does not teach that Jesus needed to be water baptized to be saved. Let me help you out on what The Church teaches so you can start learning and stop lying: Catechism of the Catholic Church (usccb.org) Keeping it real...Mary

And the Apostles were a member of our water cult since they baptized! The thousands they baptized were members of our cult. The Eunuch joined our cult after Philip preached to him. Since Philip conducted the baptism, he is a member of our cult. Sounds like I am in the right cult! :Agreed:

Lol...Yup, "the Catholics have misunderstood it".....and of course our Protestant brothers who agree with that 2,000 year old Catholic teaching... misunderstood it also. And a student of the Apostles, Clement of Rom, misunderstood it also: “Let us therefore join with those to whom grace is...

Lol.....how could you have addressed it when this is the first time I asked you for clarification? For you see Charlie, you have said two different things....that is why I asked that question. Keeping it real...Mary

Lol...Jesus was a member of the "water cult" since he was baptized. I'm just sayin.....

How about if you address the questions I asked instead of making something up: Is it faith alone or grace alone?

I never said I don't like Trump.....o_O

Soooo is it faith alone or grace alone? It doesn't matter if YOU made that ceremony (baptism) a requirement for your salvation. YOU don't (Donald) trump Scripture!! The COMMANDMENT to baptize all is not a matter of being YOUR requirement. It is a requirement from God. I find it bizarre that...

Nope, faith is not made void when someone does what Christ told them to do (Matthew 28:19) and when we follow His example (Matthew 3:16). Scripture says that "ceremony" (baptism) saves us (1 Peter 3"21) and washes away sin. Faith without works is dead Charlie....Just like Scripture says. Deny it...

Yes, you do have a choice....And you made it!!! :waves: The Church is not pretending to be God. The Church is what Scripture says it is: it is a rock and the pillar and foundation of truth. I would also like to address your lie that The Church teaches that man cannot be saved without a priest...

Thanks Charlie, The purpose of water baptism is just what Scripture says its purpose is: be baptized, and wash away your sins,....even baptism doth also now save us So, yes, for us Christians our salvation starts with faith in Christ. We then get baptized, repent, confess with our mouths, do...

Will He give you grace if you aren't obedient to him? If you don't get water baptized, you are not obedient to Him and you are not following His example.

WE agree we ought to be water baptized. Thank you for the advice.

You seem to be saying two different things here Charlie. You state that salvation is by grace alone. You then go on to say that water baptism is something that we do through our faith, and it is obedience in confessing the Godhead. If we are not obedient to Him and confess Him.....will we be...