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What did Paul say happens when we do the works for the wrong reasons? Works are good and will be accomplished through the believer, but for what reason? That reason will determine if your faith is acceptable or unacceptable. We are no longer under Law, Marymog! Best to figure that out now...

1500 years and counting. I'll leave you Catholic folk alone now. Nice dodge Charlie. What did Jesus say happens to those that do good works Charlie?

Totally disagree. The very first Christians were all that became Christians whether they were atheist, pagan, agnostic or Jew. So they were NOT all Jews.

Ummmm....There was a "hierarchical line of men". The Apostles were over everyone else....everyone under them were not their equeals. The Apostles appointed "elders" to lead various churches. The members of those churches were not of the same heirachy as the appointed elders or Apostles...

OK, if it is the good works of the Catholics that they enter into heaven, then let the Catholic stand on that foundation when they meet Christ. I will stand on my faith alone in Christ for my salvation, with my works a gift to Christ. First off, Scripture NOR The Catholic Church teaches that...

Not true Charlie. James literally said faith without works is dead. That means if you don't have the works....your faith is DEAD! Your faith means NOTHING. Which means faith + works = salvation. Which is what our Lord taught 2,000 years ago: ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit...

Completely and utterly and provably NOT TRUE. Paul did not say that works have no part in our salvation. He said works of the LAW..... I now see where your confusion comes in. You keep misquoting Paul and leaving out the most important word: LAW

Charlie.....Paul says that faith for our salvation is apart from works OF THE LAW. If you are going to reference or quote Paul....quote him correctly. yet we know that a person is justified not by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ. And we have come to believe in Christ...

Yup, I agree, there is no contradiction. They are both talking about different works. Paul, work of the laws, and James work of good deeds. Mary

Charlie, It's not one or the other (Paul vs James), it is both! It appears you and I don’t disagree about the primary role that faith plays. Paul teaches that justification comes by faith. If you look carefully at Paul’s writings, you will notice that he never says that our righteousness comes...

... I never said it did sooooooooo what's your point?

You haven't kept up with the conversation. Not true. Stop gaslighting me. Here is what I said: Show me in Scripture where it says man is saved ONLY by hearing and believing the Gospel..... Your response was Acts 16:30-31. CLEARLY that verse does not say that is the ONLY thing that we must...

Good questionRLT63.....thanks for asking. The Catholic Church refers to itself as The Church. Do you have documentation backing up your allegation that it calls itself 'the one true Church'?

I will attempt to answer your question based on what I am presuming you mean: The priest is the ruler of the local church. The bishop is the ruler over multiple churches in a diocese. The pope is the ruler over all the priests and bishops. The magisterium is the ruler over the law or teachings...

Hi Charlie......James is not opposed to Paul. They are talking about two different works. Paul used the phrase “works of the law” six times and only within Romans and Galatians. When Paul speaks of the “works of the law,” he is referring to what we know as the six hundred and thirteen...

Yup, there is ONE thing that Scripture tells us we must do to be saved. That is not the ONLY thing Scripture says we must do to be saved. Soooo it appears I will not be joining you and the men who you follow in your fight! Mary

Well, I am glad that no one is lying to you by teaching you that. But that means you are lying to yourself since Scripture does not say that the one true Church is everyone who is saved.

Okay Charlie....I have reviewed what you wrote and I haven't changed my mind. Here is what you wrote: Ok, but remember that you are disobeying one apostle (Paul) who makes his stand perfectly clear. The one you are obeying (James), that's much harder to understand, isn't it? Better find out why...

Scripture doesn't say that!! Only you, the men who taught you that nonsense and @Charlie24 say that.

Good point.....I apologize....I will get back with you.