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Hi CZ, At no point in no passage at any time does Scripture say that our faith must be grounded in personal bible study. It is simply not in Scripture which means you made that up. Also, if you knew your Christian history, it wasn't until 300 years AFTER the last Apostle died that The Church...

Seeing into the hearts of a person has NOTHING to do with The Church being visible or invisible. That makes no sense

Hey CadyandZoe, There must be some facts that have led you to believe that the RCC is not The Church spoken of in Scripture. Since you KNOW that the RCC is not The Church spoken of in Scripture then you must KNOW which church is?

Nope, not putting words in your mouth. It's only logical. Being on the same page a lot means you are not always on the same page so that means you think she skews sometimes.

I am.

Thank you for the clarification. Still not sure what you meant when you said that you "Have not met any...".

That is what Scripture teaches: For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. So what is the water baptism by man if not baptism into Christ? I thought there was only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5)?

Are they real?

Copy all the comments of influential leaders you want on the matter. Why wouldn't you just copy the teachings of The Church on the matter? Let me help you out: The Holy See In the 5th century The Council of Florence declared, “The seventh sacrament is marriage, which is a figure of the union...

Nope, no good answers to what Jesus said OR Scripture says. Jesus said he will build a Church. Scripture says We are to take our differences to the church. Scripture says The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. If you think that Jesus said he would build a church and then he made it...

According to your logic....If I haven't met any of them then they must not be real. I haven't met you or any Presidents either.....so you nor they must not be real either. ;)

The Church teaches some of the doctrines they espouse

Influence, YES. Make doctrine? No

Saying what The Church isn't is not an answer. Thank you for your time.....

Being on the same page a lot means you think she skews....Keeping it real...Mary

Well then, it's settled fact. YOU have never met any or read about any or seen any on TV. It must be the truth then....:Zek:

Complete lie....shame on you. Marriage is one of 7 sacrements of The Church.

Origen, St. Jerome, St. Augustine, St. Ambrose, and St. Thomas Aquinas don't make doctrine for The Church

Still no answer....Lol

If you adhere to the Protestant men's teachings then they are YOUR MEN. ;)