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How is that "different"? They can know God and Christ even if they don't know how to perfectly correctly label Christ. I'm sure if Christ returns and says "Guys I'm not God lol stop it" they'd accept it.

Yes, there is truth and there is lie, but I really don't believe eternal life rests upon this issue. John says eternal life is in believing Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God--you can believe both of those things without believing Jesus is God, or you can believe them both and add that, to...

Again, I was giving an example (and there are many) as to how or why people who are in good faith think the Bible teaches Jesus is God. They aren't saying it just to say it, and they're not trying to be tricky. I've known countless trinitarians who bore good fruit in keeping with repentance--who...

1. At least you're acknowledging the verse now. Thank you. 2. The Psalms are prophetic at times, as David "spoke by the Spirit", and can therefore refer prophetically about the Lord Jesus, so, no, it wouldn't have to be referring to a mere mortal king of Israel as God--but it is a good point. 3...

They exist historically, I'm saying. Again, you keep citing only the Scriptures that seem to prove your view correct--as if I were arguing against it (I'm not)--and you are not so much as acknowledging a verse that, to some, would seem to debunk your view that I've been asking you about...

Do you realize there were binitarian Jews before Christianity ever came around--because of the complicated picture given in Scripture? " Two Powers In Heaven" they called it. Look it up if you want.

OK so you don't acknowledge there are verses that make people think Jesus is God. What do you make, for example, of the verse I raised earlier? Hebrews 1 8But about the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever, and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom.

It seems like you are saying there are no verses that CAN (not that they SHOULD) be read as saying Christ is God. Is that the case? I ask because you keep appealing to verses that support your view, but you don't even acknowledge there are verses that others are basing their beliefs on (even...

Yeah, and "according to what we read" is what is in question--some people "read" this, some people "read" that--so appealing to "what we read" is not solving anything. I'm not even taking a side, I'm just saying I think it's debatable, and it is not right to say people who disagree with you...

Yeah, there're many arguments for both sides. I'm not disagreeing with that fact.

I'm not even saying you're wrong about Christ--I don't know, myself--I'm just saying I don't think it's going to determine whether someone has eternal life either way.

Yeah, but, again, knowing them is different than being capable of giving a theological treatise on the issue. You can know someone without knowing everything about them. Again, the paralytic didn't even known it was Jesus, and derived benefit from Him.

I stand by what I said, and what the Scripture explicitly stated--the paralytic did not know it was Jesus. Don't you love Scripture? Love it in this case, as well.

Show people a little grace--it's a debatable issue. It's not clear cut like, "do not covet".

The paralytic in John's Gospel didn't know it was Jesus. John 5 11But he answered, “The man who made me well told me, ‘Pick up your mat and walk.’” 12“Who is this man who told you to pick it up and walk?” they asked. 13But the man who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had slipped...

No, the lame man got healed and didn't even know it was Jesus Who'd healed him--how much moreso for people who recognize Jesus as the Christ and Son of God (even if it is debatable what precisely that means)? Yes, they can know God by God's mercy. Jesus will definitively clarify this issue if...

Lots of people disagree with your view, yet they know God (ie, have eternal life Jn 17:3), and they bear the fruit of the Spirit against which there is no Law (so they won't be told "I never knew you. Get away from Me, workers of lawlessness!"). You need to quit saying people need to agree with...

2 Corinthians 3 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. ... 7But if the ministry...

Lol I'm not sure you could've picked a worse verse! God's Law "converts" the soul when you follow it as a tutor to Christ--and Paul says the Scriptures make you wise unto salvation through faith in Christ.

Eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was what killed Adam in the first place; the Law, a species of Knowledge of Good and Evil, isn't called "the ministry of death" 2 Co 3:7 for nothing. Romans 7 9I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became...