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So...and? BTW, do you have a problem answering the following question? Really? Okay, tell me what do you believe the mark is? A physical mark or a spiritual mark?

Really? Okay, tell me what do you believe the mark is? A physical mark or a spiritual mark? I am a pure Historic Amillennialist. I am against ANY Preterist doctrines.

I understand and know where you come from on this. The problem is the mark of the beast is not "end-time phenomenon. The mark of the beast has been since Cain. To receive a mark simple illustrate a spiritual branding or etching upon as a sign of ownership by Satan. For example, as you name is...

I shared Scripture that details how saints were beheaded for their witness during the Great Commission, which spans from Pentecost to the Second Coming, represented by a thousand years. Where is your biblical evidence with Scripture supporting your definition of martyrs in your concept of a...

Rev 20:4-5 (4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their...

Say, do you both understand exactly who are the 24 elders? Really?

What are you implying here? Did your think Jesus was a witch who calling up the spirit of Moses and Elijah? Poorly comparison on your part.

Listen... in Matthew 17:9 about Moses and Elijah...appeared and spoke with Jesus Christ at the Mount of Transfiguration. Peter, James and John saw them. What were their bodies like? Was it "temporary" before Christ went to the Cross? Or are you going to deny this altogether by saying it's just...

(Continued from previous post) But here is the truth of the matter. We should understand that everything in this Revelations chapter 20 is going along in a logical chronological progression. Christ, The Messenger of the Covenant, comes down from heaven with this Key (Christ is the one with the...

Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they set upon them, and judgment was given unto them. And I saw the souls of them which were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their...

Huh? You are saying that we, amills have been taught by men that "being born again of the Holy Spirit is the first "bodily" resurrection of the dead" as is shown in Revelation 20:4-6? I think you are babbling and confused because that was not what "I" teach. I have been teaching the false...

You don't get it. You may ask me when I was in the grave and when I was resurrected. It is when Christ was in the grave and when He was resurrected! As Christians, we died WITH HIM, were buried WITH HIM, and were raised up WITH HIM free from our sins! Selah! This is the corerstone of...

Well, DUH! This is what the first resurrection is about! The spirit under the body of death have been renewed, regenerated, and made alive in Christ. Christ was not talking about change with our fleshy bodies the moment when we were born again. The first resurrection is NOT a body...

Misapply of scripture and reading into scripture out of context.

Bingo!!

Yes, it talks about the born again of the souls in Christ per Revelation 20:5-6, Selah! 1st Peter 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,"...

AMEN! Ephesians 2:6 "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: True or not true? Authoritative or private interpretation? This is the first resurrection! Colossians 1:13 "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath...

No, we have answered yet you do not accept it. Again, you will not be able to "see" the spiritual rebellion if you do not have spiritual discernment because you deny this and insisted that apostasia must be a "physical departure" via the rapture. It is same as how do we know when we see the...

It is because, as a premillennialist, he automatically sees Revelation 20:4-6 as something in the future instead of the present kingdom. In other words, he has denied that Christ's kingdom has come and we are the kings and priests in His kingdom, preaching His word to the world.

We explain Satan being bound in the bottomless pit the same way God explains it. In other words, though Satan was destroyed [katargeo] that he is brought down to IDLENESS or uselessness by the death of Christ that the nations (or Gentiles) can be saved, he is clearly in another sense "not...