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:csm Much wisdom!

Sounds like you are in denial! :-) "Denial is the most predictable of all human response!" - WiseManSay That there is denial of the church's current state is not unexpected or novel, but if we are honest with ourselves (by the Spirit of Christ) I'm sure we can all tell that there is the ever...

It is not our job to switch your view. That is between you and the Lord. Now you heard the truth, except that it is not OUR words, but the Word of God. We are merely witnesses of it.

Exactly, that's why I am still waiting for their honest biblical refutation on your posts. Nothing! Luk 21:15 (15) For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Sounds more like you have already been deceived by this doctrine despite my wisdom in Christ. The Lord Judges and I am comfortable with that! :p Luk 21:15 (15) For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. Much wisdom!

2nd Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God...

Very unlikely! Yeah, it is called the deception of the PreTribulation Rapture. Thanks to Thomas Ice for bringing up false interpretation on Apostasia. Much wisdom which you lack the wisdom of Christ and the ability to discern what the Word of God actually talks about.

Still waiting for your biblical refutation to WPM's post. Nothing? Not surprised.

Bingo!

The "falling away" is literally an [apostasia] or apostasy. The departure in the church from the law (truth) of God's word by the unfaithful (lawless) man who basically wants to rule as if he were God. This falling away speaks of a time when the Godly man will cease in the church, being replaced...

No, this is not about "physical departure" at all. The word apostasy [apostasia], as used in scripture, is by definition a "deserting or forsaking" of the truth by the church. You can't fall away or desert the truth if you have never been enlightened by it, and had tasted of the heavenly...

No KUWN. Covenantee did provide proof which you chose not to accept. Not our problem. The ball is in your court. So where is YOUR biblical evidence IN THE BIBLE with your understanding that APOSTASIA "is" the rapture of the church? Your original post with "LXX" is purely speculation. Not...

I will answer first few questions if anyone wants to know. Satan is NOT a created supernatural being. He is a spirit. A spirit of disobedience of man, started with Eve. The devils, demons, minions, etc are simply men (messengers) with the spirit of antichrist. Dragon is Satan. Satan...

No, we all RECEIVED the wages of sin to BEGIN WITH which is why we need Christ to free us from it.

It's not something you have never heard, You have denied the truth since Paul penned it. The wages of sin is SECOND DEATH, not physical death. Get it?! LOL!!! LOL! You quoted: Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So you are saying that...

Well, duh! False. All mankind received wages of sin because all have sinned and fallen short of God. You do not make any sense! Elect with the wages of sin has been paid in full by Christ (First Resurrection) while the rest still have wages of sin to pay (Second Death)! It does not mean...

Because our corrupted fleshly bodies have to end sometimes? What does that have to do with the price of Bananas? Gen 2:17 (17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Did Adam die ON THE DAY...

It is you who need to take time and "THINK" carefully what Christ is trying to tell us. Didn't God often use His physical creation to represent deeper "spiritual" meaning, humm? For example, you insisted on physical sun, moon and stars, right? Okay, what did God say about these things in...

Nothing "I" say makes the statement false. Your statement is false because it's Not True! That's a fact. You don't take the Bible literally (as you claimed) because you know perfectly well that it is nonsensical to attempt to take it literally. You pick and choose what you want to take...

Bingo!