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The facts are, Wormwood, that when you oppose women in public ministry to men through women's teaching, you are actually practicising an anti-women in ministry perspective. Facts are stubborn things. Your view opposes the didache (teaching/instruction) of women in the assembly as stated in 1 Cor...

Wormwood, Your claim is false that the primary role for a woman prophetess was a civil one. I find that to be dishonest with the data. There are five women who are stated to be prophetesses in the OT. They are: Miriam (Ex 15:20); Deborah (Judg 4:4); Huldah (2 Ki 22:14; 2 Chron 34:22); Noadiah...

The Barrd, In this thread, those who conclude in support of women in public teaching, prophesying and other ministry, have provided the exegesis. We have attempted to rebut the opponents. What is the end result? There is no movement by either of us. Does that mean that traditionalists will...

Sounds like an awfully good idea. :P

So even a Canadian knows the meaning of malarkey. It's not as crude a term as its synonyms. Oz

Thanks, mate, for your support and calling him for his falsehood. If I were to write in the same font and bold the heading, it would not highlight the emphases I wanted to make. Blessings, Oz

Since you did not deal with the content of my discussion, you gave me another red herring here. You seem to be incapable of addressing the issues I raised. There is no shouting from me. They are simply headings in a larger font. Bye, Bye Oz :wub:

The issue I raised with the OT examples was that of prophetesses (e.g. Deborah) who spoke to Israel (including men) for God. So here we have deliberate, authoritative women in ministry. But you seem to want to deny that authoritative role for OT women to have any continuing expression in the NT...

That's because it wasn't a red herring fallacy. It's time you learned the nature of fallacies and when you commit them. I know I'm engaging in thinking that is impossible for you to grasp. Sadly. :popcorn:

In #6 I wrote: Renowned Greek scholar of the 20th century, A. T. Robertson, agrees that the translation ought to be, “Have faith in God.” He refers us to other examples in Gal. 2:26; Rom. 3:22, 26 (Robertson 1930:361). The citation is accurate from A T Robertson and his referring to Gal...

Testimonies, based on the error taught by Kenneth E Hagin Sr, promote error. Mormons and JWs give testimonies. Testimonies are dangerous when the teaching is false. What are the errors in the examples I gave of Kenneth Hagin's teaching? I am concerned about the Word of Faith’s false teaching...

Wormwood, This is straining at a gnat, with your trying to make this verse support your point of view of silence of women in the church. The fact is that prophecy is a public ministry as is clear from the proceeding chapters 12-14 of 1 Cor. Paul doesn't have to mention corporate worship in 1...

Wormwood, Part of my being an honest exegete is to deal with, (1) What the verses mean, and (2) What the verses do not mean. By the way, what a verse or passage 'means' may be different from what it states literally. However, meaning is included in interpretation of a passage. What make 1 Cor...

Another red herring. :wub: In #24 the Barrd gave a list of women from the OT and NT and what do you do? You reply with a list of males. That is NOT what the Barrd discussed, hence a red herring fallacy by you.

Emeke, I find that to be a blackmail threat. I don't buy into it because of the humongous damage I have seen done to the Christian community by this kind of teaching. Also Scripture exhorts me to check out what I hear taught by the Word of Faith Movement and how it lines up with Scripture (Acts...

marksman, I do wish you would quote my source accurately. This is what it stated for the meaning of gune: 1. A woman of any age, whether a virgin, married or widow; 2. A wife, a. of a betrothed woman (source) The second meaning of gune is 'a wife', one who is 'a betrothed woman'. She is a...

Wormwood, Professor Don (D A Carson) has exposed us to a wonderful exposition of the possibilities of understanding the 'silence' of women in 1 Cor 14:33-36 in https://bible.org/se...thians-1433b-36 (Stan linked to this article in the 'Slain in the Spirit' thread). There are excellent reasons...

How do you determine the meaning of presbuteros? For you to say that the word 'woman' does not appear in Scripture demonstrates your ignorance of NT Greek. The Greek gune means, 1. A woman of any age, whether a virgin, married or widow; 2. A wife, a. of a bethrothed woman (source) The...

Quoting a long list of verses as you did in #422 is just that - quoting verses. It is not engaging in the task of exegesis. Exegesis means to obtain the meaning out of a text and involves the hermeneutics of a particular text so that it is properly interpreted. You have not done that. In...

A marvellous list of eisegesis.