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Kepha, What about this kind of evidence from the early church and these church fathers' views of Scripture? Irenaeus , in Against Heresies (written ca AD 185), stated, 'if they had known the Scriptures, and been taught by the truth, they would have known, beyond doubt, that God is not as men...

Jun2u, This is not what the verses say in context, we read Heb 5:11-6:8 (ESV): 11 About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. 12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of...

LA, Don't you trust us to be able to read the link if you give it to us? Please, please, I urge you to quit this kind of lengthy copy and paste. Instead, please use a simple link to the article, 'Does Justification Still Matter?' Michael S Horton. Of course justification by faith in Christ...

Seems like you could be referring to MAD theology.

Is this what you mean by MAD? See HERE. Oz

2 Cor 7:10 (ESV) disagrees, 'For godly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation without regret, whereas worldly grief produces death'. Repentance is a U-turn that God causes at salvation. However, Heb 6:4-6 affirms it can become unrepentance through apostasy, and that repentance...

Are you only a 'Bible Gazer' or are you wanting to know the Bible's explanation for why we sin? Psalm 51:5 indicates that sin is NOT learned, 'Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me'. We are sinners from the time we were conceived. How come? Here the...

You seem to be quibbling. The point I'm making is that Calvin got it wrong about Augustine - badly wrong - in relation to predestination and OSAS.

justaname, 'For it is impossible ... to restore them again to repentance' (Heb 6:4,6 ESV). Hebrews makes it clear that when someone falls away (Heb 6:6), it is impossible to restore them to repentance. A restoration to repentance means that they had experienced repentance in the first place...

justaname, It's a shame that you did not start your quote from John 6 with these two earlier verses, '‘No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: “They will all be taught by God.” Everyone who has...

John Calvin, in writing on predestination, stated: 'Augustine is so completely of our persuasion, that if I should have to make written profession, it would be quite enough to present a composition made up entirely of excerpts from his writings' (in 'Augustine on Sin and the Will', tbakerhill...

So does your God also have physical wings and feathers? ‘Have mercy on me, O God, have mercy! I look to you for protection. I will hide beneath the shadow of your wings until the danger passes by’ (Psalm 57:1 NLT). The psalmist continues this theme, ‘He will cover you with his feathers, and...

You are goading me.

Bull what??

Zenguin, The older I get, the less likely I am to submit to churchianity that is not infused with biblical thinking. If I were 30 years younger, I may be influenced not to think as deeply about behavioural change that is not as deep as heart change. That said, change of any sort at any age is...

Is God a he-she hermaphrodite (based on Gen 1:26-27)? I hope you understand how blasphemous it is to suggest that these two verses support God having a body because verse 27 states, 'So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them'. For...

This is an ad hominem personal attack on me.

If you want to talk about a topic relating to revelation, no Bible for Saul of Tarsus to use, then start another topic. You are again hijacking discussion with your red herring logical fallacy.