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  1. Davy

    DID THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS SPEAK OF THE MYSTERY?

    Of course it is the Good News that God came in the flesh as Jesus of Nazareth and was crucified on the cross and was raised by The Father, for the remission of sins past of that those that believe. You well know that is what The ONE Gospel of Jesus Christ is about. And it is the SAME for both...
  2. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    1. Eccl.12:5-7 -- mentions if the "silver cord" is loosed (severed), then the flesh goes back to the earth where it came from, but the spirit goes back to God Who gave it. 2. 1 Corinthians 15:44 -- there is a "natural body", and there is (present tense) a "spiritual body." 3. 1 Corinthians...
  3. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    Right, that is a future-foward timeline view about that "great multitude" of Rev.7. They represent the sealed Gentiles in Christ.
  4. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    Nope! It means if your flesh is suddenly dissolved, LITERALLY gone, like in a war, you STILL have ANOTHER BODY, the "image of the heavenly", the "spiritual body" of 1 Cor.15. Just saying all that remains is a 'hope' to God in heaven is a SPIRITUALIZATION of a literal heavenly body that Paul...
  5. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    Pre-tribbers wrongly interpret the Rev.7 passage about the "great multitude" having come out of great tribulation to mean their false pre-trib rapture. It is not about that, as future forward timeline events for after Christ's return are given within those Scriptures.
  6. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    You are trying to be SLY! You intentionally disregard that above phrase, "if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved...". That phrase sets the CONDITION of that "building of God" being manifest in the heavenly. That building of course is the "spiritual body" which Paul covered...
  7. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    You are leaving out the misinterpretation of the Pre-trib Rapture followers that by that Revelation 4 Chapter the Church is raptured to Heaven, which is not true. This same kind of timeline confusion happens with many in the Revelation 7 Chapter about the "great multitude". The latter verses...
  8. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    You are wrong about that. 1 Cor.15:45 reveals that Jesus' body was made "a quickening spirit", as does 1 Peter 3:18-19 reveals also. Apostle Paul said in 1 Cor.15:50 that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Most of you Pre-tribbers haven't even rightly studied the 1...
  9. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    That's what some among the false Pre-trib Rapture theory have told me they believe. But I am well aware that most believe the Church is raptured at or by the time of that Revelation 4 Chapter. Either idea is not Biblical, since Jesus showed His future coming and gathering of His Church will be...
  10. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    BRETHREN IN CHRIST: Just in case you are not aware of how man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory treats those Revelation 4 & 5 Chapters about the 24 elders, the heart of their doctrine that makes them wrongly believe those 24 elders have already received their rewards in Christ, and are reigning...
  11. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    You are only following a doctrine of men, and it looks like its man's FALSE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE THEORY that you are following, which wrongly believes those 24 elders are already reigning with Christ today in Heaven, and having already received their rewards! That's where your idea comes from, NOT...
  12. Davy

    Elijah shall come before Christ?

    I don't have to remember, because it is actually God's Word... which is how I know when to be bold in staying in God's written Word, and when not to. 2 Tim 2:15 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. KJV You...
  13. Davy

    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    We are living in a time today when Satan and his servants here on earth have run amuck, their well knowing their time is short. Thus it seems that the number of false Bible interpretations have increased, while the ones to really watch out for involve wrongly supporting Satan's coming one-world...
  14. Davy

    Unequally Yoked

    Therein exists one of the big problems in today's Churches. A person reads one single verse and then runs with it as if they know all about it, when they haven't even considered the verse 'within' the context of where it is written. Hey, but no surprise, because brethren learn that method of...
  15. Davy

    Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?

    That's funny indeed! Afterall, in our conversation it has been YOU that have always began CRAZY DISTORTIONS in order to scoot the Truths that I have declared.
  16. Davy

    24 elders in Heaven

    No it is not... Origen. The "last day" Jesus mentioned with His promise to raise up those of His is about the FUTURE RESURRECTION on the day of His FUTURE 2nd coming. Oh, I'm sorry, you're not Origen of the 3rd century Christian school at Alexandria, Egypt who tried to allegorize literal events...
  17. Davy

    BEWARE OF THE SPIRITUALIZERS HERE

    Just like what Communists do, of course they DENY the REAL TRUTH and paint instead with a fake feel-sorry-for-me brush. One of my great-grandfathers was an Inquisitor in France, and the problem was much more involved than persecuting little children and the elderly.
  18. Davy

    WHAT DID PAUL MEAN IN SAYING TO KEEP THE ORDINANCES?

    Good grief, you mean the 'traditions' Paul mentioned DID NOT include water baptism and communion with Christ? YES, the 'traditions' Paul mentioned to keep DO INCLUDE water baptism and taking The Lord's Supper! Those are two main ordinances that ALL... Christians are held to. But... I have...
  19. Davy

    THIS VERSE IS NOT ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

    Only thing I HAVE IGNORED is the ignorant doctrine of men you follow, which falsely claims the first one TAKEN is about Christ's Church when it instead is about those OUTSIDE THE ARK at the time of Noah's flood. What Jesus said that I quoted is SIMPLE. And the only way one could NOT understand...
  20. Davy

    DID THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS SPEAK OF THE MYSTERY?

    BRETHREN IN CHRIST: The Hyper-Dispensationalist, or Hyper-Grace movement (both same thing), vainly attempts to separate Apostle Paul's Epistles from the rest of The Bible with claiming ONLY Paul's Epistles are for Christ's Church. That is their main pipeline theory, everything else based on...