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  1. Wrangler

    Afghan national shoots two National Guards in Washington DC, considered terrorism

    Great point! The inversion is that it is evil to NOT crack down on illegals and lawbreakers as that is an act against justice, which God loves, Psalm 37:28, and commands us to do. Micah 6:8. Our feminized society has foolishly prioritized mercy over justice, emotion over first principles. The...
  2. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    The whole reason trinitarians must resort to such rationalizations is precisely because there is not a trinity verse* in Scripture. Otherwise they'd just refer to it. We can rationalize what day Eve was created, which is different from simply quoting the verse that says Adam was created on Day...
  3. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    You keep repeating a requirement that contradicts Scripture. This is why you cannot admit there is no trinitarian verse in all of Scripture. I am a Christian, a Unitarian Christian, who accepts Jesus as my lord and savior. Can you at least admit that Jesus has a God?
  4. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    What do the words of God say? Rom 10:9 So you will be saved, if you honestly say, “Jesus is Lord,” and if you believe with all your heart that God raised him from death. You are falsely equating the trinitarian IDOL with believing Jesus is a man anointed - by God - to be lord of heaven and...
  5. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    This is Circular. Can you admit there is no trinitarian dogma verse in Scripture? You don’t see the problem with your IDOL.
  6. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Agreed. God’s name is YHWH - not Jesus.
  7. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Name. Title. Not equal.
  8. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I think it’s better to stick to the OP than get mired in trivial questions as you pose. If my cousin is manifested in his drivers license, that does not mean his drivers license is my cousin. Such desperate arguments as this are a means for trinitarians to distract from the fact that there is...
  9. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I believe Jesus is precisely what Scripture says repeatedly, a man among the people of Israel anointed by his God. The title “Christ” means anointed, not God. No. I only worship his God. Jesus has a God. Jesus’ God is the only true God of the Bible.
  10. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    In your view, this statement from Thomas equates to disqualifying someone to be a Christian? You’re unaware of the Strawman you create. The trinity is more more than the man is god thesis. Some claim salvation depends on accepting this IDOL, which is not supported by ANY Scripture. See extreme...
  11. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    It’s just not so - proved by the complete absence of a verse in support. You can’t even admit there is no trinitarian verse in all the Bible. Even if you take some verse and read into it what you claim, it is STILL not a trinitarian statement. Trinitarians take some ambiguous verse AS IF it...
  12. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    Babes in Christ. Still drinking milk when they should be eating meat. This is why I stayed away all year. Debating elementary points with those who use their "questions" to not get on with serving God, actually reaching out to people and advance the Great Commission, refuse to work, to give...
  13. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    @Lizbeth, you are very wise. Being tested is seen as oppression and tyranny to those who wilt under the slightest pressure.
  14. Wrangler

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Now that the rule has changed ... I find the opposite to be IDOLATRY. Supposing Jesus is God is a manmade doctrine, the very definition of an IDOL. There is no trinity verse in Scripture. To be clear, when I write that the trinity is not found anywhere in Scripture, I mean that neither the word...
  15. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    This begs the question of what does @St. SteVen trust?
  16. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    I was speaking of myself and my journey. Has your reading of Scripture not altered your understanding of doctrines held before such reading? @quietthinker bemoans Scripture that leads him to observe "God kills and gives life, hates and loves?...arbitrarily?" One Pastor pointed out that our God...
  17. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    Yes, God is the Boss. It's his universe; we're just living in it. What is it about this that causes you to bristle?
  18. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    Very insightful. I was took @St. SteVen to task for only putting enough effort in to form proto-thoughts. He consistently expresses something short of fully thought out ideas, holding his speculations of what could be true AS GOOD OR BETTER than what is actually true. Jesus did NOT say he is...
  19. Wrangler

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    On the contrary. The truth Is far better than the fantasy of escaping justice you seek. God makes us an offer we CAN refuse. This is because he gave us Liberty along with Life. With freedom comes responsibility. There are consequences to whatever we choose. Choose carefully. It’s shameful that...