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If you don’t drink the wine and eat the bread you are not doing what He told you to do. What do you think this means?

Ok….But you are not disagreeing with me. You are disagreeing with the Supreme Court: As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution...

Lol....really. So all this time you have not been giving me YOUR interpretation of Matthew 18:17? You have been giving me WHO's interpretation then? Remember, you can't give me the name of a man soooooo you MUST be getting direct guidance from the Holy Spirit? Judges apply the law. The Supreme...

I already knew the answer. You choose your men. I choose my men. @Ferris Bueller chooses his men and all 3 of us think we are right...even though our men disagree with each other. Sooooo for you to suggest that you are going to help make my eyes see any better is a bit presumptuous and...

Nope Wrangler, not playing a what if game. I have given you facts. There are churches in your town that teach opposite of what your church teaches. Some churches in your town say gay marriage and abortion is not a sin. Most say it is a sin. Some churches in your town say the Eucharist is His...

What is MY solution? You are the one saying that man doesn't decide if the person committed a sin, and I am saying that man does decide soooooo what is your solution???? YOU have taken man out of the decision-making process so who replaces man in YOUR solution?

Soooo initially they do disagree but in the end they will all come around to the Truth? Hmmmm.......so why are there so many denominations with so many different Truths? Soooooo it's not a game Wrangler, it's reality and it is happening right now!

Paul disagrees with you: The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

Ok....As the facilitator you don't feel like you need to guide the members of the church to the Truth. Soooooo what is the purpose of a facilitator in that church meeting to decide if someone committed a sin or not? If the church members make a decision that you clearly believe is opposite of...

Wrangler...I agree with you that the law is already defined in Scripture. BUT it takes man/men to interpret Scripture! So which man/men do you choose to interpret Scripture and decide if a person committed a sin against you? The men of your church or the men of The Catholic Church? ALSO, the...

Soooooo what you said earlier when you said a “born again person who ALREADY has the life of the sacrifice in him does not need to eat bread and wine to get the life of Christ” was not what you meant. They already have life in them? So now I have to ask; How does eating/drinking a symbol give...

Thanks Wrangler. I do not think“the whole church” is pretty clear. Does that mean the WHOLE church; all 100 members have to be present AND come to the same conclusion? If 1 person is missing the decision to treat a person as a pagan can’t go forward? All 100 are present and 20 disagree with the...

It does help Wrangler….Thanks. Being a facilitator at work where one is helping with the logical progression and making sure that there is participation on all sides is a bit different than deciding if a person has committed a sin according to Scripture. As a facilitator you at work you guide...

OK…lets put your theory into practice: I have decided that Ferris sinned against me. You disagree with me. I get 2 others to agree with me. You refuse to listen to the 3 of us. I get the entire congregation to agree with me. You refuse to listen to the entire congregation. The sin is sooooo...

We agree! If they do not repent and acknowledge their guilt they are to be treated as a pagan/tax collector. WHO tells them that they are guilty Ferris? Let’s walk thru this according to what that passage says: At first it is ME (that’s 1 vote)! If they don’t listen to me I go get 1-2...

And you Ferris seem to have forgotten that you wrote THIS A born again person who ALREADY has the life of the sacrifice in him does not need to eat bread and wine to get the life of Christ he ALREADY has in him. Sooooo which one is it Ferris? Do you NOT need to eat bread and wine since Christ...

Thanks Jim B. You pose a very good question. Jesus said to his Apostles it was his body/blood. So either he was lying OR it was a symbol. I take Him at his word. You don’t. The question is where is the evidence that the Apostles or 1st century Christians took him at his words instead of what...

Hey Wrangler. I have no problem with your interjection if it helps me better understand what Ferris is saying. I think it is possible we are having 2 separate conversations. Let me see if I can be clearer: I am NOT supposing the congregation is deeply divided. What I am asking is AFTER myself...

Ummmmm…..I am “getting this voting crap” from Matthew 18. If a person refuses to listen to 2-3 of their Christian brothers they take the difference to The Church. Sooooooooooo when 2-3 people make a decision they are casting a “vote” for who is right in that situation. Is that not true Ferris...

Not playing that game Ferris. If you can’t give an example of me saying that then don’t lump me in with everyone else. I have never accused you of being leaderless. The FACT is I have said on multiple occasions “what YOUR MEN have taught you”. That is NOT accusing you of being leaderless.