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You just answered my question....you are going to bloviate.

Hmmm.....so YOU decide what church is heretical? And the Spirit revealed this to you? You crack me up wrangler....

Lol....that is the only thing you have to say after @Illuminator proved you wrong? you crack me up

Ummmm....sooooo are you going to prove me wrong or just bloviate?

No, the Holy Spirit will not lead men to the Truth against their will. But YOUR men have been led to the Truth....which means YOUR men are not heretics because you KNOW that YOUR MEN are guided by the Holy Spirit. BTW...I am not mocking. I am simply putting you on the spot and I suspect you see...

It is factual Ferris that true believers are members of the church. Because logically if you don't truly believe then you can't be a member. I think you would say that Catholics are not true believers. And you would probably say that MANY denominations are not true believers. Sooooooo who...

I have not given my opinion Jim. I have given the 2,000-year teaching of Christianity. What you are giving is your opinion or the opinion (teachings) of men from 500 years ago. Keeping it real....Mary

Jesus made it VERY clear and I have made it very clear and Christianity for 2,000 years has made it very clear that it is a requirement Jim: unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life...

NO, it is not ONLY about a "matter of forgiveness". Read the passages AGAIN! IN CONTEXT: It is about a person committing a SIN against you AND your forgiveness of them AFTER they admit it was a SIN. If they disagree with you, and the two brothers that agree with you, that what they did was not...

What your men have taught you is not what that passage says. But I understand how they came to that conclusion. And that conclusion would make sense if it wasn't for the fact that the difference between the two brothers is being taking to the church OR the sum of all believers as you put it...

There is no requirment to do what Jesus told us to do? Who taught you that Jim? His body and blood in the form of bread and wine is offered to everyone. Who taught you that it isn't? The same men who taught you that there is no requirement to do what Jesus told you to do?

Lol....ok.....so you really don't believe that the Holy Spirit will lead men to the Truth....Only the men YOU agree with....but not those "other" men. What this boils down to is that YOU know what the Truth is and YOU decide what men are teaching the Truth. You do keep me in stitches kiddo....

Oh goodness Ferris.....STOP listening to your men. You are looking at that passage through your modern rose colored glasses. Jesus was talking to The Apostles. Not you. Not me. Not every Christian that will ever walk the face of the earth. Listen to His words like a 1st century Jew would have...

Sooooo Ferris..... I think after our extended conversation about this I have finally put together what your men have taught you! You have been taught that a born-again person already has the life of Christ in them in salvation. That means there is no need to eat bread/drink wine in order to...

Lol....Hold on Ferris...HOLD ON!! You are a very confusing person! Sooooo when you eat the bread/drink wine in remembrance of Him you are just pretending it is His body and blood? And that bread/wine is just a symbol of His body/blood? And that symbolic body/blood does NOT bring life into you...

Using Scripture alone show me where that is taught in Scripture! (hint, it's not) Also, historically we KNOW that the early Church did NOT have a set list of books that they considered Scripture.........soooooo you are wrong on 2 counts! Here is a passage from Scripture that teaches opposite...

You provided 8 passages from Scripture that destroys what @Truther has been taught by his men......You gave him the Truth but I suspect he will keep denying it. Mary

You crack me up Wrangler…..

Ok Wrangler. We agree. The Holy Spirit will lead people to the Truth. And the Holy Spirit led the men of the Catholic Church to the Truth. Do you agree with that?

Ok Ferris….I will get 2 of my brothers from the Catholic Church and all 3 of use agree that “baptism now saves you”; just like Scripture says. Therefor we have decided that water baptism is necessary for salvation. You get 2 of your brothers from your congregation and say that baptism doesn’t...