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Ziggy, I do enjoy your contributions, however, I think I need to remind you that not doing the will of God...that is disobeying Him... Is not to His glory. I agree with you that there are many interpretations as to what the Sabbath means and how it applies to individuals and churches. And that's...

In the early 2nd century, Roman rulers such as Pliny, Trajan, and others, all of whom were pagan in all things, had only a smattering of knowledge of Christianity. What they had heard they developed themselves into a form of religious belief system that cast Christianity into an ugly light...

That does not say, "there is no Sabbath in the NT". It is saying that one ought not judge others who are observing Sabbath. Nor is it talking about the weekly Sabbath. Paul is talking about the annual feast day Sabbaths that were shadows. The weekly Sabbath is not nor ever was, a shadow.

I've seen several videos, read a number of articles, all with the intent of accomplishing one thing. Denigrating the Lord's Sabbath, and uplifting the man made tradition of Sunday. You have no idea Who you are fighting with.

Couldn't have said it better. It's also significant that those exalting and trumpeting these legalist mandates that are sourced from the ultra right of Judaism, are so often of the left wing liberal bent of Christendom. Go figure.

I beg to differ to the inference that if one didn't accept the so called orthodoxy, one cannot be born again.

When you find the true answer to that ^^^^, then ask yourself about the promise of God to Israel to write His laws on their hearts. A NT promise btw. Who does that actually apply to? The nation? Or God's church?

You no doubt have some biblical evidence in support of the above. Right? It's not just another, "thus saith David"? All of which is absolute truth. Clearly and succinctly the word of God to the children of Israel. So. Who is Israel? And who are truly Israel's children? Are they the fleshly...

Barney quoted an excellent essay explaining those passages. Seems you missed the email. That's true. Know anyone doing that? I might. 90% of Christianity honour a day unsanctioned by God. Others think believe it or not, that Jesus said rest in Me and ignore the day. Still others don't think God...

No doubt you will be able to quote this clear "thus saith the Lord, there is no Sabbath in the NT". Interestingly, I and others have quoted numerous verses stating CLEARLY that the laws and commandments of God are forever. And they are ignored.

I cannot believe that you actually posted that reference in all seriousness. I thought at the very least, a "thus saith the Lord"... Scripture... Was the foundation of faith and practise for non Catholics. But that entire article was built solely on human reasoning. Some of it was just nonsense...

Despite the objections of one here, it seems Ziggy is correct... KJV Exodus 33:11 11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle . And yes...

Huh?

Let us know when you decide to post evidence for that.

@BarneyFife I remember seeing Mark on TV many years ago, it's great what he's doing, and I'm sure he won't be the only person ministering to the disenfranchised and downtrodden, bringing healing, health, and hope. Yes. It turns out he's particularly sensitive to any venom or poison or stingy...

It isn't only slavery that was historically and significantly wrong with early American society. The manner in which land was stolen from native Americans, and they shunted like cattle cars into small sidings called 'reservations', was an abomination. What redress are the Indians getting? Money...

If my grandfather had stolen your grandmother's car, and I now possessed it and you only today discovered the duplicity and theft, would you not be justified in demanding it back? Or would I be justified in saying as you are doing now, it wasn't my fault, I didn't steal it, not my problem.

What's interesting is that Jesus firmly rebuked the Jewish leaders for doing what they were doing, or not doing, on Sabbath, yet you want us to copy their ways? Maybe Israel had it all wrong, (after all, they killed their Messiah) and God has finally got a people heading in the right direction...

To me it seems unaccountable that Jesus, during three years' discussion with His disciples, often conversing with them upon the Sabbath question, discussing it in some of its various aspects, freeing it from its false [Jewish traditional] glosses, never alluded to any transference of the day...

No argument, except I am wondering why you persist in describing the weekly Sabbath as being "under Moses". Or the "law of Moses". Well, actually I do know, is because you are too much of a coward to admit the Sabbath as belonging to God and a part of HIS LAW. You are sounding like a broken...