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But, as I said, it didn't help them. They went the way all things go. Away from that which was originally intended. Just like your are doing in denying the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Stranger

Try it and see how far it gets you. Stranger

It didn't help your mainline denominations...did it? Stranger

Are you part of the Church? Stranger

You're the one who is running opposite from the Scriptures. The mainline denominations rely more on creeds than any other denominations. How warped is that? Stranger

I have and do read it. Which is why I say what I do. You are the one complaining about Charismatics and you belong to some mainline denomination, and yet you accuse me of sectarianism. How warped is that? Stranger

Now why would I say what I did if I knew my claims were false? Stupid statement. All your mainline denominations have been around too long. Satan has been able to sow his seeds in them. My claims are true. Stranger

Yes. Why? Do I have to? Stranger

No, not according to you. Stranger

Nothing wrong with edifying oneself. So? Yes, if there is one to interpret, the church will be edified also. None of this proves any cessation of gifts or that the one with the gift of tongues understood what he spoke. Stranger

Mainline churches today have left sound doctrine long ago. Is that who you represent? Stranger

No. That is your made up concoction. Stranger

No, that is what you say. Not Paul. Stranger

No, understanding is not necessary for the one with the gift of tongues. (1 Cor. 14:14) "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful." Stranger

They prove nothing. I didn't say that the Church are not the people of God. I said they are not Israel. Just because Israel is the people of God, and the Church is the people of God, doesn't make the Church and Israel the same group of believers. Concerning your point #(6): Israel is not...

All that proves is that unless there is an interpreter, only the one with the gift of tongues is edified. It doesn't prove that the one with the gift understands what is said when he speaks in tongues. If the one with the gift of tongues understood what was said, then there would be no...

So? I showed you that edifying oneself isn't synonymous with understanding what is spoken. It is not necessary for the one with the gift of tongues to understand. They are edified in the use of the gift. You have proven nothing. Stranger

Again, proves nothing concerning the cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. In fact it addresses the need of the gifts. Stranger

Where did Paul say they were to come behind no gift waiting for the Revelation of Jesus Christ? Chapter and verse. Nothing what you have said proves any cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Stranger

This doesn't say the one speaking in an unknown tongue understands what he is saying. Instead, in (1 Cor. 14:13) it says the one praying in an unknown tongue should pray for an interpretation. In other words, for one who has the gift of interpretation. The person with the gift of tongues...