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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    very good post Kerez.
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    No Zechariah 14 is about the First Coming with the fall of the Old Testament congregation and the feast of Tabernacles in the New Testament congregation. The mountain signifies the kingdom which is the congregation of Israel. Therefore, the split of the mountain signifies the fall of the Old...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Not correct. A sound hermeneutic "must" be tied to the anchor that Scripture is the ultimate authority, it cannot be gainsaid or resisted, it requires surrender, and "it interprets itself." For God is both the author and finisher of our faith, and truth is discerned by the Spirit in us moving...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    I am quite serious that you are WRONG. You did NOT read or compare Scripture with Scripture carefully. As it is written in Matthew 2: Christ! Mat 2:13-15 (13) And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Just wow! What a full denial at display! I will be praying for you. Good riddance.
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    LOL!!! But do you actually read it and understand it, or take "scripture" by chapter and number out of context and privately interpret it? :p Blah, blah, blah. You are going in circles with pure speculations and private interpretations. Now I know that you are not really a Bible student so...
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    Who the beast and false prophet really are.

    You distracted the subject. You need to answer each specific question posted to you and try again. For example, what does the river Euphrates often represent in Scripture? What does water represent in Scripture? Why is it drying up? And who are the kings of the East?
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    Who the beast and false prophet really are.

    Huh? So you believe Christ is coming BECAUSE the physical Euphrates River in the Middle East is literally drying up? Really?! Do you actually think this is what God is talking about? Or do you need to be spiritually discerned in order to understand what He is talking about? For example, what...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Well I am as long as I TESTIFY with HIS WORD concerning the matter. Unlike you who only make speculations. Self-promotion? Ha. The Lord judges and I am comfortable with it. Huh, so you saying that the "true" descendants of Abram is "true" Israel as long as they put their faith in Christ...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    You did not quote the verse and explain it. You just said "Abrahamic Covenant without actually show your understanding of Scripture. You did not quote verses from Roman 9-11 and explain it biblically. You just claimed that it speaks of "nation" Isreal. You did not quote verses from Act 1...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    And one more thing, @Randy Kluth I am of the camp of the saints that recognizes that the Lord's covenant with Israel is by the lamb slain from before the foundation of the world. And it reaches back to cover His children from Adam/Abel, to Noah, to Moses, to Paul, all the way to those saints who...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    LOL. Where is your Scripture many times? None! Romans 9:8 "That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed." Here God is answering the objection against the rejection of the Jews. In other words...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Israel "IS" Christ, and He is "THEE" Covenant Tree. First, the Jews, then the Gentiles, grafted into the same tree. Nothing in Scripture tell us that the Jews will graft into Covenant Tree again after the church. You need to show Scripture to prove this. According to whom? You or God? Prove...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Looks? That is what natural man foolishly thinks. 1Co 2:13-14 (13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Do you believe the verse is a literal narrative? Will it be a literal millennial kingdom on Earth for 1,000 years where animals will sit next to each other? Or is God painting a picture representing something?
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Speculation. Your understanding on "the lost tribes of Israel" is biblically lacking. Allow me to explain WITH SCRIPTURE regarding the so-called ten lost tribes of Israel. Why is it important to know what happened to the 10 northern tribes of Israel? Well, there are many reasons, not the least...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Yep...you do ERR! We read the same passage yet we differ in understanding who Christ talked about. You with carnal mind thought God was talking about national Israel while I, with spiritual discernment, where God was talking about spiritual Israel in Christ where He is NOW a cornerstone of...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    No you misrepresented what I said. You need to read the whole context of my statement again. Red herrings You do err, for you do not know what Scripture says. :) Nope, not according to the Word of God. False! We are not on a mission to save physical geopolitical nations. We are sent on...