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Without the realization that God forgets righteousness, I understand why you'd say what you're saying. You need that fact to affirm what I affirm it says. "If all you have is a hammer, everything look like a nail."

Ez 3:20, God forgets righteousness. In the NT, faith is counted as righteousness.

Again, I affirm your grammatical breakdown, but I affirm God forgets righteousness (faith is counted as righteousness), so their definitely having partaken in the past tense will never have occurred, will be forgotten, if they don't continue. I understand it doesn't make sense to say if you...

I appreciate your gracious interaction, so I hope you'll forgive me for coming across in a less careful way, esp bc I don't like it when people avoid getting to the point by ad hominem.

If I came across uncharitably, I apologize, especially because I have yet to see you have the wrong attitude in interactions. I accept your breakdown of the grammar (though I misspoke previously, having not had my eye on it--commenting that it contained a "command", which didn't even matter...

We interpret it differently--he tells them to continue, or else their having partaken will not have happened at all, because God will forget their righteousness of faith. You see, in your systematic theology, there is no place for this Biblical dynamic (ie, of God forgetting righteousness, of...

This is not a problem--those who don't continue in the faith are blotted out, their righteousness (of faith) is forgotten (Ez 3:20), so it is as though they were never partakers in the first place (eg, "they were never of us"). The issue is you need to work with Scriptural precedent. Without...

^ 1 Jn 2:28 instructs the children to abide, not be led away by idolatry (1 Jn 5:21). I've already provided the example of the Galatians. The branch that does not abide gets burned in the fire.

I do acknowledge I am having this discussion in order to hammer out, with God's help, a mental (not just words) balance between the justification by the righteousness of God that occurs upon hearing with faith and the ongoing justification that is by walking by faith (Ro 14:5,23). It is possible...

Right, so you now openly admit that you're denying the Greek, which doesn't state "one and done, believe one time", but "is believing ongoing action on the present" by appealing to a mangling of another doctrine. You have to deny the "abide" doctrine. Your tradition can't handle it.

"Is believing" means an ongoing action in the present, which speaks to the need to abide to continually receive the life. Already explained it. Yes, when you believe, you get the life. Never denied that. I only ALSO believe that it's not a one-time transaction. That's not what the text says.

Even if I granted this argument, that it is necessary to believe this, it would be an argument for my case (that abiding depends, in part, on believing, and not all abide by obeying the command to believe--eg, the Galatians deserted God (1:6) and were severed from Christ (5:4) when they fell...

Oops, He said "The one who IS BELIEVING" (continuous ongoing action in the present), not "the one who believes" (one-and-done), so, this goes to the "abiding" doctrine, which goes to the doctrine that continuing to receive the life depends on continuing to abide in Him where the life is.

1 John 2:28 aims this language at "little children", therefore there is no question that it refers to God's children, true disciples with "true" faith.

Yup, those branches that don't bear fruit are cast forth and are burned. Couldn't be clearer. You think that's not a salvific issue--you can't, because your opinions are threatened by the Scripture, so you must reject the obvious truth, which is ridiculous.

Yup, whoever has the Son has the life--never disagreed with that--but not all abide, and they don't retain the life.

Sorry, that's not what is written. Read 1 John 3:23, 24 for instruction on how to abide then rejoin the discussion.

The eternal life is only in the Son (1 Jn 5:11), hence only those who abide, by obeying the commands of God, are supplied with that substance/life/Spirit that is only in the Vine, but those who do not are burned (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24). The question has never been about the eternality of the...

The branch issued from the Vine. It must have life to grow. At some point it ceases abiding and is unable to bear fruit and is eventually cast out and burned. 1 John 2:28, for this reason, warns the children to abide, so they won't draw back in shame (Heb 10:39) at Christ's appearance (shame...

The branch that doesn't abide gets burned. Couldn't be clearer.