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I agree that there is a right and a wrong way to apply the Scriptures I've shared, but there is no question that what I have said is both in the Bible and correctly reconciled here. I will never veer from what is written and go to a tradition that may be beneficial but cannot let me rest due to...

Nope, when someone falls away in an irretrievable manner (some aren't irretrievable, some are--eg, the Heb 6 believers VS the audience Hebrews is written to, "we are persuaded of better things concerning you though we speak this way"), God forgets their righteousness (Ez 3:20), so it is as...

I can't recommend bringing your difficulties with Scripture to God enough. All I ever found were questions. It took prayer to get answers.

It makes God exceedingly kind and smart that He still satisfied justice while championing mercy at the same time.

Let's not get off topic ("smart"). I believe Scripture, that's all. I didn't think Christ bearing sin and wrath was controversial.

Idk what point I'm "missing".

OK

All the OT sacrifices prefigured Christ. The priests would place the sins of the people onto them. Christ is called a "guilt offering" in Isaiah 53 and it says He bore our sins. Don't know how much clearer it could be stated.

Isaiah 53. He bore our sins.

God would pour out His wrath on Christ, bc that was where our sins were.

Physical death isn't the "wrath" living men are under, the wrath they're under is at least in part spiritual death. When men believe they pass from death to life--if not they REMAIN under God's wrath, spiritually dead.

These are not mutually exclusive. Jesus paid for non-eternal/forgivable sins. Anyone who wants can go to the wedding party, but anyone who doesn't won't enjoy the food.

Why not if our sins were on Him--and "the wrath of God is revealed from heaven on all the unrighteousness of men" (Ro 1:18)? What has happened that men pass from death to life, and are no longer abiding under God's wrath when they're in Christ--no longer dead in sin--when they're "in Christ"...

Interesting opinion, but I read... 1 Thessalonians 4 3For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; 4that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6that...

Actually, the correct translation is "He who IS BELIEVING"--ongoing believing in the present tense--which is exactly in keeping with the "abide"/"remain" doctrinal concept. Had He said "He who believes", someone might be justified if they (despite all the rest of the Bible's testimony)...

Some do not remain in Christ (1 Jn 2:28), but break His commands, which, if kept, make a believer abide in Christ (1 Jn 3:23,24), because they're led away from Christ by idolatry (1 Jn 5:21)--eg, "I am astonished you are so quickly deserting Him Who calls you in the grace of Christ and are going...

Incorrect: the Christian who does not abide in Christ (1 Jn 2:28) by breaking the second table of the Law of Faith, "love one another" ("walk by faith" + "faith works by love" + "God is love" + "God writes His laws on our hearts and minds" (Jer 34:31-34; Ro 2:14,15) + "let every man be fully...

Are you talking about the gays? Yeah, God calls that an abomination.

lol sorry!

Isaiah 53 4However, it was our sicknesses that He Himself bore, And our pains that He carried; Yet we ourselves assumed that He had been afflicted, Struck down by God, and humiliated. 5But He was [c]pierced for our offenses, He was crushed for our wrongdoings; The punishment for our...