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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    To be brief, towards your escalating impatience with me, it is simply this: In the foreknowledge of God, the plan of God's salvation was "brought forth" before the creation of the world. Proverbs 8:22-31. The deepest desire of God the Father and God the Son, since our creation in innocence, has...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    I have to admit, it appears that you are attempting to put all of your knowledge into the "trinity concept", in order to be convincing, but it really is coming up short. None of the scriptures, that you provided, reveal an additional third person existing in the Godhead of God the Father...
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    The answer of hell and its origins

    Matt.25[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: As for the word "brethren", you should know that it is in reference to "born again" Christians only. Note: [40] And the King shall answer and...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    I perceive that you DO see man's need for a Mediator, but you DON'T see God the Father's reasoning of why He Himself needs a Mediator. The act of mediation between to warring parties, is a two way street. Do you have any thoughts of why the Father needed His Eternal Son as the Mediator, and not...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Actually, there is a stark difference between Christ-ianity and Church-ianity, aka the wheat and the tares/chaf, but only Born Again Christians are able to discern the difference. Each are born from out of two different allegorical "mothers". One is of this earth, and the other is of heaven...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Well, I'm not going to get into the head butting here, but something isn't quite "seated" correctly in church-ianity's seating arrangement. Yes, it is true that Jesus is standing at the right hand of the Father. Even Stephen, during his martyrdom 36 AD, was given a vision of that fact. Acts...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Although what I am saying may sound like I am splitting hairs, I am not. Actually I have "pinned" it squarely through the positional concept of Jesus being the literal Mediator for God the Father and us. As I have said, God the Father needed His Son's sacrifice for Himself, just as much as we...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Matthew: meaning BOTH God the Father and God the Son together, ARE TOGETHER as ONE, being Holy Spirit AS THEY ALWAYS have been in eternity past. While Jesus was in the mortal flesh of His being, he was not in the fulness of HIS Eternal Spirit. The words and the works through Jesus, were done BY...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Well, I'm not going to get into any head butting here, but something isn't quite "seated" correctly in church-ianity's seating arrangement. Yes, it is true that Jesus is standing at the right hand of the Father. Even Stephen, during his martyrdom (36 AD), was given a vision of that fact. Acts...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    I think that you misunderstood what I said. If you look at the spiritual value of Revelation, through the mind of Christ within you, you will definitively perceive God speaking in the past, present and future, all at the SAME time. That is a feat that our fleshly minds CANNOT DO! However, by...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Sorry there PinSeeker, but I still see only TWO Personages of the Godhead being literally spoken of in those scriptures. Therefore from that evidence, it is vividly apparent to me that Jesus being now together with the Father, are Holy Spirit together as One, of which they always were, in...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Yes, ever since 96AD, and however long men continue to repent towards Him, through faith in Jesus, God's Grace will still be in the world. So, for one to think that "things which shortly must come to pass" from 96AD, had all passed before 200AD, that would be a gross error for interpretation...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    He may show it to you, and you may read it, but without the mind of Christ within you, doing the interpreting, you will have nothing except what your "grey matter" shall imagine it to be. Again, John 16:13, John 15:5.
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Yes, you are correct. Thank you for the correction! GOD the Father is the first Comforter. However, that only corrects what I had erroneously said about Jesus as the first comforter. I will edit my previous post with your suggested corrections. Let's not forget that the Father spoke the words...
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    The answer of hell and its origins

    I have 5 questions for you, pertaining to "the goal". 1. Have you been born again by the Spirit of Christ? 2. Are you now a partaker of the divine nature? 3. By taking part in Jesus' resurrection, did you receive the Gift of eternal Life? 4. Have you spiritually become a participant with the...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    Actually, the words of the book of Revelation are the written Eternal thoughts of God, who thinks in the past, present and the future, all at the SAME time. Isaiah 55:8-9 Our lowly, fleshly minds cannot understand him on his level, hence the need for "the mind of Christ" to be within us, aka His...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    1. John the Baptist was the witness to who Jesus is 2. Jesus is the witness to who God is. They are the two anointed ones of Zechariah 4:14. Both were born with the Holy Spirit of God at birth. No others have EVER been physically born by the Holy Spirit of God. Malachi 4:5 has already been...
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    The answer of hell and its origins

    Unfortunately, by you approaching their arguments as being contrary to the standard beliefs of main line church-ianity, you are just adding fuel for the fire. Don't you yet know that "all of the churches have some of His truth, but none of them have all of His truth"- Earburner. Maybe now you...
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    WHO ARE THE TWO WITNESSES IN REVELATION ?

    You said only what pharisaical "church-ianity" (the wisdom of men) thinks of who The Holy Spirit is. Their understanding is the REVERSE OF who Jesus showed how THEY actually are. Would you happen to know Who the "THEY" is? In John 14, there are only TWO being revealed as One. Here is one clue...
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    The answer of hell and its origins

    You are half way there, but you are trying to fabricate, so as to keep your end time doctrine of men. To be in Jesus, and he in us, is to BE IN the KoG. His first coming in the visible flesh, was to manifest himself to Israel only. Jesus Himself is the KoG. His second coming in His invisible...