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Not all are believers. there is a group that fall away that are unbelievers. They are the group who John wrote about in his epistle 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they...

No I understand this full well. It is the literal words of God. I am surprised you accept it as written. Well that Day is a 7 year period and yes 2/3 will be killed and the 1/3 will receive Jesus as Messiah and cry out to Him which is the main cause of Jesus to return. That is strongly...

I have seen many many videos proving Jesus died on Wednesday, Thursday etc. Lots of hard work but they are all wrong biblically and culturally. 1. Jews considered any part of a day as a day when speaking colloquially. So when Jesus said He would be dead for three days it works out like this...

Doesn't matter. symbols have no power or authority and their values is in what people place in them.

And yet teh rapture is not HIs coming and His coming will be visible when He returns to earth, that is clearly established in HIs Word. Well I will not be boastful enough to speak for all pretribbers, but I do know that the rapture is not any part of His Second coming. It is simply Jesus...

Anmd all this means nothing. Man looks on the outer appearance but God looks upon the heart. This is just like the JW's abhorrence ot Christmas trees or celebrating Valentines day, Thanksgiving. If the heart is right- these symbols can and do become Godly! Satan does not won all the symbols...

Kerqaz, you rproblem is very simple. You do not accept the word of God as written linguistically and grammatically. You hinge your whole Israel is now the church on a totally fallacious rendering of Galatians 6: 16 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy...

Well if you have not put me on ignore yet here is the biblical passage on this thread for about the tenth time: Matthew 16:18 King James Version 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it...

Yes and the cumulative 483 years occurred on Palm Sunday with Jesus triumphal entry! Then after the 62 7's He was cut off on Good Friday! Now let us look at what is written after Messiah is cut off. and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and...

Time will prove God right and allow you to repent. Your ignorance is really showing. Israel does not mean overcomer for God, but one who struggles with god. I have written and said this to you ad-nauseum. what failure is your failure to carefully read my posts. that remanat will consist of...

Wrong again. You need to read the OT and the promises made to Abraham and confirmed to Isaac and Jacob and their seed into perpetuity. And no one was in christ until Pnetecost. I have you just reject the word as written. YOu have so much to learn. Israel is the first born. that is who Moses...

you may think they are hogwash but go find out how much oinfo is in that 3.5 % difference between man and monkey! Things have changed Birds have adapted beaks for differing diets, etc.etc. But all the evidence that is testable repeatable and observable is that a bird has always been abird, man...

I do as well. As Gentile believers in the one body of Christ! And the body of Christ is different from teh OT saints and the trib saints as far as the millenial kingdom is concerned.

Why don't you post teh Catholic position and the Jw's as well. Positions and name does not make one right. So if jesus died in the 70th week, please show the seven year covenant a roman ruler made with Israel and broke it half way through and stopped the sacrifices and oblations from happening.

Well as you are not my god and cannot read my mind or soul- I will take your comments for what they are worth. 0 It is the euphrates River. why must you make it different! And it even explains why- to let the kings of the east cross Well I take what god word says and not your...

Wrong again! Romans 11 King James Version 11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh...

AD-hominems will get you nowhere with me :joyful: Have read it numerous times! Even taught it in churches, bible institutes and bible college and on radio! Jesus only comes back once and the rapture is not His coming back to earth. Okay so show me when Jesus fulfilled all the provisions of...

You butcher grammar to read that into Galatians 6 It is grammatically erroneous and impossible to call the church Israel from Galatians 6. God is the author of Grammar. Israel is the chosen and covenanted people of God. He made an eternal covenant with them! Within that covenant He spoke of...

The bible says you are wrong! REad Romans 11: Romans 11 King James Version 11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the...

Your first line is a huge assumption. God knows who is an Israeli- Heavenly Israel is all Jews saved. Not Gentiles. And the verses prove my point- verse 6 not all physaical Jews are spiritual Jews. Verse 7 refers to Abraham not Israel.