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Then what in the world are you meaning by the term "called"? Chosen to perform a task is what I have always understood. Called is equal to being a believer.

I only use them as a last resort when it becomes obvious that someone has absolutely no clue the scriptures I am talking about. I expect that those trying to school me and others should have some good knowledge and ideas of the scriptures I use...and where I use a lot of generalities...there...

You don't have to have faith to be chosen... God sets up leaders and deposes them... I know many people who were chosen to be leaders and never had an ounce of faith.

Gift I can agree with... Faith I cannot.

Particularly when Saul was prophesying amongst the prophets and taking off his robe of royalty... Saul's Robe is a big factor in Samuel as one of the sub-themes. David cut off a corner... Saul took it off... I'm sure that you get the idea. This Holy Spirit in the Old Testament is a great...

Ok... But the Early Church in Ephesus members were "chosen" to be the founding fathers of those who would follow in the years to come...and that is what Paul is referring to. Again...huge difference in called vx chosen. I can't believe in your unique definition of "chosen"...I just can't...

St. Eligius (Electrician) He's my favorite... St. Christopher is number 2 (travellers) And let's not forget St Lawrence. (Chef's)

No...not confused...I'm going by the biblical meaning according to Jewish customs and not current theological positions. Which is what I have explained a couple of times. When you change definitions of words to suit things you want to promote...it's a bit of shaky ground to stand on.

Then... Just as a question... How did king Saul in the Old Testament get to be indwelled with the Holy Spirit?

Tahitian Black Pearls are the most expensive and popular pearls currently... And the pearl market is (and has been) one of the biggest scam markets there ever was. Saltwater pearls are more expensive than freshwater pearls. Most pearls are cultured....but not all. Not all pearls are white...

That's what it means to be called. Remember the story of the various people who wanted to be disciples/apostles of Jesus? But many of these were told "no" in various ways because of various reasons. They didn't volunteer or ask because they didn't believe. It's all those "side issues"... And...

Ok... There's a recent scientific paper out on the phosphene gas on the planet Venus that states that the only source of the gas is from some kind of microbial life form. (Bacteria) Phosphine gas in the cloud decks of Venus | Nature Astronomy And... I'm wondering if finding out is such a good...

I'm heading off to the doc myself this morning...

Hey, I've been here as a member for over ten years. They changed software platforms somewhere in the years...but I got some old threads here.

A friend of mine has a blog article that is well written and well researched complete with bibliography. CRT: The Works-Based Gospel Nevermind the title of the article. (It's not accurate) but it discussed this critical race theory running around.

Like I said... I'm going with a biblical definition and not a recent definition. Chosen to be an apostle...that's a unique role to be chosen for...it's about leadership and not just salvation.

I'm totally fairly clueless as to what a AMil position is... Some have jokingly referred to me as a "pan millenialist" because I know Jesus is coming back and things will "pan" out for me just fine.

I agree and that's the reason for my question. Faith in Jesus has always been a determining factor in salvation. Not faith in someone's interpretation of prophecy. Unless I've missed something somewhere.... Hey, I always leave room for the possibility that I'm wrong. It's not like I'm...

Look.... We probably aren't going to agree... I'm making statements for what was true, with history and anthropology thrown in. I know that most don't like what I believe. I'm not going to change. But... What I do know is that adultery carried the death penalty. (Obviously we shouldn't do...

I'm the last Generation that got the smallpox scar... My younger brother didn't get one. I'm no where near an Anti-vac person... Vaccines do a ton of good for billions of people every year. I've heard reports that there's a relationship between vaccines and autism but that it's not necessarily...