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We can’t forget Roman’s 7. Paul had his besetting sins. Many believe his thorn in the flesh was to keep Paul humble because of this sin

Well yes. If your trying to save yourself. you will never find victory If you think you are righteous and have arrived. You will have no victory. Paul ran the race until the day he died. He never gave up. because he realized he was a work in progress..

Take the log out.. is what the word says. and getting along side and trying to help one who is sinning. is not the same as saying one loves sin.. Try to keep up Saying one loves sin when they do not. is sin itself. again, remove the log.. Thats what I say. Judge not lest ye be judged

well these are false teachers. The problem is I see people attack true believers and say they love sins. This is a prety big problem (I have been accused of this myself

yes. But that does nt mean the jews today will nto be raptured.

lol. here we go again. Show me where I am in error. show me where the things I said and the verses i used are in error. You seem to have forgot what the discussion is about. here let me help you Can you prove this wrong? Either you can or you can not. I think I have shown at least twice now...

But its not OT saints, it is those who have been killed for their testimoney it is the people in the previous verses who will be killed rev 6: 8 So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over...

but it is yet future. so it does not fit the timing of the cross..

Actually you do this Your passages did not adress it, if it did, it would also adress this passage. so you can either tell me when these things happened. or where they are happening, or all the verses you posted are meaninlgess and taken out of context. the bible agrees with itself. it does...

The church will be raptured. the church includes jew and gentile No. Her seed would be in this context the gentile believers who came to christ at this time the 144000 or just 144000 jewish missionaries called out. there are many more who have believed who have been put to death and many more...

Yes, but not everyone who dies and went to heaven were killed. they also had not yet had their white robes, if you look in chapter 4. they not only had their crowns, but their robes.. These people had already been ressurected and judged Is the alter in heaven?

Rev 20 starts after the end of the tribulation. when the beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire (end of chapter 19) It begins with Satan being bound for 1000 years (vs 1 - 3) It includes the saints ruling with christ for 1000 years (vs 4 - 6) It will include satan being...

so who is going to jerusalem once a year to worship him? Zech 14: 16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. 17 And it shall...

So your saying from the time Jerusalem was built, which was 49 years or 7 weeks. until Jesus begins his ministry, there is a gap. and the 62 weeks starts then?? when was the 7 year covenant confirmed? and in this prophecy, Messiah comes at the end of the 69th week. And we are told when the...

9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. It says those who were slain or killed not everyone.. and it is while he opned the 6th seal. so it is in my view those killed because they...

yes we will.. so lets see what happens Thats your view. yes, amen just like the jews found out when christ came what the prophecied about this meant.. I disagree in part yes the church will be ressurected. But the church is one, from adam all the way to the last one who was ressurected. God...

Your taking it too far. 1. the time of the gentile is the time God has given the kingdom to the gentile 9the church) I would also say it co0incides with the time of denials beasts. who will rule over Israel for a time. 2. In context. Israel is Israel. Gentiles believers are gentile believers...

Um no he did not. lets look at romans 11 11 I say then, has God cast away His people? (SADLY this is what many people think, he has cast away Israel) Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He...

thank you bro. But I was asking @amigo de christo to explain to me what he meant in context of what he said..

if they were in soul sleep. they would not be able to talk to the king and cry out for God to put an end to it.. These particular people are those killed in the tribulation. the rest of the people were shown in the throne room before Jesus opened his first seal.. now while they may be in the...